What do with think of China killing the Brit drug runner?

[GreenScoutII]

Ok... I understand China is a sovreign country and they are entitled to make their own laws. As somebody else said, their house, their rules.

But GODDAMN!!!! DEATH for narcotics trafficing??!!??

That is just too fucked up to comtemplate. Even with that kind of penalty I'll bet they still have drug problems in their country..

Think about this for just a second. A guy has a substance intended for human consumption in his possession. Could be pot, could be cocaine, could be tobacco if a government decides so. The cops arrest the guy and then he is going to be fucking KILLED for having it.

That is too fucked up for words and a prime example of a government with way too much power.

[Irving]

I kind of lean that way as well, because I feel like the Chinese government is probably super corrupt and is protecting their own drug runners.

However, there is this little voice in my head that keeps telling me that strangers should face harsher punishment than locals (doesn't mean locals shouldn't be punished) to keep people from visiting and messing up your house.

[Troublco]

Ok... I understand China is a sovreign country and they are entitled to make their own laws. As somebody else said, their house, their rules.

But GODDAMN!!!! DEATH for narcotics trafficing??!!??

I think it's a bit harsh for drugs, especially when there are so many crimes that it should be mandatory for. Like the rape or murder of a child (And no, I'm not talking about a 16 year old here, not that I think that's OK but I'm speaking more of the folks who do these things to 3, 5, 7 year olds and such) for example.

[Mtn.man]

Ya'll all miss the point,, If you can't do the time/punishment don't do the crime... Geez....

[GreenScoutII]

I'm not anti death penalty at all. Capital punishment definately has it's place in the justice system of our or any other country that chooses to employ it. I'm just saying it should be the punishment of last resort for the most serious and horrible offenses.

I mean, in our country through the efforts of the Inosence Project, there have been a fairly large number of death row inmates exonerated by DNA evidence. A misapplied death sentence is not something we can take back. If a society is going to execute someone for a crime, that society had better have absolute unquestionable proof before that sentence is caried out

I'm with you Troublco. God damned child molesters should be fed feet first through a wood chipper. No, I'm not talking about a 21 year old guy who gets busted with a 17 year old girl, I'm talking about the damn perverts who mess with little kids.

Yes, I am the father of four little girls....

[Elhuero]

I don't think anyone should face the death penalty for being stupid and/or getting swindled.

[Irving]

So I heard more info on this. China has a stipulation in their laws that allows for reduced sentences for mental illness. They refused to test for mental illness.

The guy had 9 pounds of heroine in a bag he said wasn't his (they ALL say that). China said that he had enough heroine to kill 23,000 people and that was their justification for killing the guy. Also, they asked Britain to apologize for harassing China about the guy. China is that fat kid at school that everyone hates, but are too afraid to push down the stairs.

[Troublco]

God damned child molesters should be fed feet first through a wood chipper. No, I'm not talking about a 21 year old guy who gets busted with a 17 year old girl, I'm talking about the damn perverts who mess with little kids.

Yes, I am the father of four little girls....

I think they should get a rope to hang on to. After the first couple feet (pun intended) have gone in. See how long they can hold on. And then publicize the heck out of it for the others. I'm sure I could get REALLY creative with some of them. I'd even settle for handing them over to the general prison population after announcing their crime and their new cell of residence. Nearly all of them have enough decency to not accept that sort of thing either.

And I did get the point; sort of like that punk kid vacationing with his family in Thailand a few years ago. He expected to be able to vandalize cars like he did back home, and when they got him, they were going to make SURE he understood what the word CONSEQUENCES meant. I think they should have done it.

I'm not sure about the stupid part. Is stupidity really an admissable (sp?) defense? The whole "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" thing seems to apply here. But I suppose you do have the "intent" issue, as well.

[Pancho Villa]

Moving on from death fantasies...

"Their house, their rules" seems asinine to me. Do we say that when someone shakes a baby to death for screaming too much? Their house, their rules, right?

Is that your response when the Taliban put people to death for being infidels, or not wearing a burka, or something like that? Their house, their rules, right?

There is what is right and what is wrong. I don't have any interest in drugs and no use for drug dealers (or most users,) but I also understand that there are right and wrong ways to treat people. To be honest I don't have much use for drug laws, my view being that any law meant to protect people from ruining their own lives simply creates a criminal underclass, costs taxpayers billions, and doesn't really prevent people from ruining their lives anyway.

I've known several drug addicts in my life. Never for very long, for obvious reasons, but they were losers before they got hooked. If you don't want your kids doing drugs, raise them to be self-confident, self-reliant and rational. The govt's laws won't help you at all on that end.

[Irving]

Very well said.