What do with think of China killing the Brit drug runner?

[sniper7]

I doubt it is difficult to give orders out of prison. You talk to a guy, he tells his girl that visits him, shit gets done on the outside. Easy as that.

on gang wars they say coded phone calls take care of a lot of it.

[GreenScoutII]

Really governments have no business regulating drugs or any goods for that matter (be it alchahol, fireworks, weapons etc.). Of course we all know that China's government is waaay whacked already. China kills a lot of people who don't deserve the capital punishment.

Yep... Legislating morality is losing proposition. Are you a fellow Libertarian?

[mutt]

I doubt it is difficult to give orders out of prison. You talk to a guy, he tells his girl that visits him, shit gets done on the outside. Easy as that.

Problem is it shouldn't be easy as that. No visits from your girlfriend, you're in fucking prison. No cell phones, you're in fucking prison. You should be so damned tired at the end of the day from hard labor that all you can think about is going to sleep because you have to be up at the crack of dawn to do it again.

Yep... Legislating morality is losing proposition. Are you a fellow Libertarian?

Agreed. There was a time in this country when the govt had zero say in what you put in or did to your body. You want to do coke, fine, go ahead. You're free to snort your life away if you so choose. Now if you commit a crime while high, you pay the price for the crime you committed.

Freedom is the right to be free and live with the consequences of your choices (good or bad). Freedom is not the 'right' to have the nanny state strip away everyone's freedom in the name of protecting you from yourself.

[Irving]

This guy is awesome, but he probably got in trouble for doing this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urmNg...layer_embedded

[rhineoshott]

Yep... Legislating morality is losing proposition. Are you a fellow Libertarian?

Pretty much. My only slight difference with Libertarians is that sometimes they won't say that government can restrict/punish for pornography or homosexuality ect. That is the civil government's responsibility.
See Leviticus 20:13.

Didn't mean to Derail the thread.

[rhineoshott]

This guy is awesome, but he probably got in trouble for doing this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urmNg...layer_embedded

SWEET!

[sniper7]

This guy is awesome, but he probably got in trouble for doing this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urmNg...layer_embedded

that was awesome

[Irving]

punish for homosexuality? please.

[mutt]

Pretty much. My only slight difference with Libertarians is that sometimes they won't say that government can restrict/punish for pornography or homosexuality ect. That is the civil government's responsibility.
See Leviticus 20:13.

Didn't mean to Derail the thread.

No, they shouldn't legislate against those. Pornography, no matter how one might revile it, is protected by the pesky 1st amendment. Homosexuality, again no matter if you find it abhorrent, is a private matter that is no business of the govt.

Obviously you're religious, awesome. You are free to cope with the challenges in life however you see fit, so long as it doesn't infringe on my right to do the same in my way.

Using any religious text as a literal basis for civil and criminal law is another really bad idea. See Saudi Arabia, or any fundamentalist muslim nation, as a perfect example of what happens when one specific religious thought makes the rules.

[Irving]

Agreed. Have a good ChristNew Years guys. I'm going home.