What do with think of China killing the Brit drug runner?

[GreenScoutII]

I'm not anti death penalty at all. Capital punishment definately has it's place in the justice system of our or any other country that chooses to employ it. I'm just saying it should be the punishment of last resort for the most serious and horrible offenses.

I mean, in our country through the efforts of the Inosence Project, there have been a fairly large number of death row inmates exonerated by DNA evidence. A misapplied death sentence is not something we can take back. If a society is going to execute someone for a crime, that society had better have absolute unquestionable proof before that sentence is caried out

I'm with you Troublco. God damned child molesters should be fed feet first through a wood chipper. No, I'm not talking about a 21 year old guy who gets busted with a 17 year old girl, I'm talking about the damn perverts who mess with little kids.

Yes, I am the father of four little girls....

[Elhuero]

I don't think anyone should face the death penalty for being stupid and/or getting swindled.

[Irving]

So I heard more info on this. China has a stipulation in their laws that allows for reduced sentences for mental illness. They refused to test for mental illness.

The guy had 9 pounds of heroine in a bag he said wasn't his (they ALL say that). China said that he had enough heroine to kill 23,000 people and that was their justification for killing the guy. Also, they asked Britain to apologize for harassing China about the guy. China is that fat kid at school that everyone hates, but are too afraid to push down the stairs.

[Troublco]

God damned child molesters should be fed feet first through a wood chipper. No, I'm not talking about a 21 year old guy who gets busted with a 17 year old girl, I'm talking about the damn perverts who mess with little kids.

Yes, I am the father of four little girls....

I think they should get a rope to hang on to. After the first couple feet (pun intended) have gone in. See how long they can hold on. And then publicize the heck out of it for the others. I'm sure I could get REALLY creative with some of them. I'd even settle for handing them over to the general prison population after announcing their crime and their new cell of residence. Nearly all of them have enough decency to not accept that sort of thing either.

And I did get the point; sort of like that punk kid vacationing with his family in Thailand a few years ago. He expected to be able to vandalize cars like he did back home, and when they got him, they were going to make SURE he understood what the word CONSEQUENCES meant. I think they should have done it.

I'm not sure about the stupid part. Is stupidity really an admissable (sp?) defense? The whole "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" thing seems to apply here. But I suppose you do have the "intent" issue, as well.

[Pancho Villa]

Moving on from death fantasies...

"Their house, their rules" seems asinine to me. Do we say that when someone shakes a baby to death for screaming too much? Their house, their rules, right?

Is that your response when the Taliban put people to death for being infidels, or not wearing a burka, or something like that? Their house, their rules, right?

There is what is right and what is wrong. I don't have any interest in drugs and no use for drug dealers (or most users,) but I also understand that there are right and wrong ways to treat people. To be honest I don't have much use for drug laws, my view being that any law meant to protect people from ruining their own lives simply creates a criminal underclass, costs taxpayers billions, and doesn't really prevent people from ruining their lives anyway.

I've known several drug addicts in my life. Never for very long, for obvious reasons, but they were losers before they got hooked. If you don't want your kids doing drugs, raise them to be self-confident, self-reliant and rational. The govt's laws won't help you at all on that end.

[Irving]

Very well said.

[BPTactical]

Moving on from death fantasies...

"Their house, their rules" seems asinine to me. Do we say that when someone shakes a baby to death for screaming too much? Their house, their rules, right?

Is that your response when the Taliban put people to death for being infidels, or not wearing a burka, or something like that? Their house, their rules, right?

There is what is right and what is wrong. I don't have any interest in drugs and no use for drug dealers (or most users,) but I also understand that there are right and wrong ways to treat people. To be honest I don't have much use for drug laws, my view being that any law meant to protect people from ruining their own lives simply creates a criminal underclass, costs taxpayers billions, and doesn't really prevent people from ruining their lives anyway.

I've known several drug addicts in my life. Never for very long, for obvious reasons, but they were losers before they got hooked. If you don't want your kids doing drugs, raise them to be self-confident, self-reliant and rational. The govt's laws won't help you at all on that end.

I think you may have taken my comment out of context.
I see your point and understand your stance and agree for the most part with your right and wrong outlook.
But when you are in a foreign country you are a GUEST in that country and are obligated to abide by "House" rules and customs.
If drug trafficking in that country carries a penalty of death and you choose to engage in trafficking drugs there then you have sown your own crop.
I agree that there is a right and wrong way to treat people and your examples of the Taliban and shaking a baby are perfect examples of "crimes against humanity" wrong.
But I have a different view on on the subject at hand.
He knowingly perpetrated a criminial act in a country that is known for harsh consequences for criminal acts.
He knew the risk.
He took the gamble.
He lost.


Remember a few years ago when there was all the hoopla surrounding the U.S. citizen (17 y.o. kid) in the Phillipines who had committed a crime and was to be caned?
The crime he commited carried the punishment of caning. He ended up getting caned.
He broke the law.
He suffered the consequences of his actions.
I had no sympathy for him.



Some justice systems work better than others.
We are far too weak on criminals and while you should have rights when you are accused of a crime why is it that a criminal seems to have endless rights?
The attornies and ACLU have fucked this country up.

[Irving]

I think there is a pretty big difference between the kid spray painting cars and some shady guy convincing this guy to take his bag to China with him.

[BigBear]

Also... wouldn't it be nice if the lawyers/attorneys of wrongly convicted peoples had to do the time/punishment as well?

I like it.

[Irving]

Yes! Don't forget the police chief who is itching to placate the public by throwing someone under the bus for the crime, or whatever similar situation happens in real life.