Round Three CMP 1911 Sale

[def90]

I thought the point of the CMP was to get reasonably priced firearms into the hands of civilians to encourage shooting proficiency.

Maybe someone can explain to me how a >$1000 basic colt 45 that is used makes sense. You can buy brand new alternatives for less, even half as much. Is this the collector market driving pricing? If so, selling to collector types to hide in a safe doesnt fulfill the purpose of the CMP.

Where an you get an actual USGI 1911 for less? WW2 made Ithacas sell north of $2k on Gunbroker.

[clodhopper]

Where an you get an actual USGI 1911 for less? WW2 made Ithacas sell north of $2k on Gunbroker.

OK. You missed the point. What is the intent of the CMP? CMP was not created to sell at high market prices to collectors of US History in an effort to gather profit. I dont disagree with your point about USGI history. But CMP was established to put used govt surplus into the hands of citizens to encourage shooting training, generally raising the marksmanship of the citizenry. From the (supposed to be) CMP point of view, these weapons are simply used govt surplus to be distributed at appropriate used weapon market value (not collector piece), or relatively close to that. The CMP keeps raising the bar to obtain a weapon and raising the price. They have lost the path.

[def90]

OK. You missed the point. What is the intent of the CMP? CMP was not created to sell at high market prices to collectors of US History in an effort to gather profit. I dont disagree with your point about USGI history. But CMP was established to put used govt surplus into the hands of citizens to encourage shooting training, generally raising the marksmanship of the citizenry. From the (supposed to be) CMP point of view, these weapons are simply used govt surplus to be distributed at appropriate used weapon market value (not collector piece), or relatively close to that. The CMP keeps raising the bar to obtain a weapon and raising the price. They have lost the path.

Fair market value would be closer to $2k and above.

The 1911's weren't ever a part of CMP's charter, they only got these due to a couple congressmen that got the 1911 transfer shoved in to another bill, they were going to be scrapped otherwise, that is why they have the completely separate sales and entry system from the Garands. The money they will raise from these will go to fund more Garand imports if and when they ever become available.

The only gripe I have with the CMP is that they should have gotten rid of the 8 or whatever rifles a year a long time ago as it has become quite obvious that many people are using the CMP in order to make a quick $ flipping them. Even with the current shortage they are still letting guys walk in to the stores and buy multiple rifles a day. There are guys out there that have themselves, their wife and all their kids on their account and are getting dozens of rifles a year in which they flip on Gunbroker at double the price that CMP sold them for.