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    She was dead to the democrat party back in 2021 when she came off as anti-jab mandate on the Megyn Kelly show. She dared to mention natural anti-bodies without mocking anyone.

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    If the media keeps giving her airtime to trash Dems, she's helpful to us.

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    Like many others, I'm very cautiously interested in what she thinks. What I have found most compelling is what I perceive to be intellectual honesty in the past year or two. Dems now are pretty much devoid of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    ...but there's enough common ground to have a useful and interesting discussion.
    And she's one with whom you could actually do that. Rare breed among the left. I'm at least willing to give her a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    And she's one with whom you could actually do that. Rare breed among the left. I'm at least willing to give her a chance.
    This is how you shift the center to your side.

    She is a full on Democrat and anti 2A unless it gets her votes like RINOs. Almost as bad as FUDDs with thier support of 2A limited to hunting and wood clad rifles.

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    I'm always amazed by some on these forums...

    Constant, non-stop bitching about the left being anti-gun and how that's awful, blah, blah, blah. And it is. But when someone has a change of heart and actually appears to be trying to change their outlook on things (which is what appears to be happening with Gabbard), still bitching. No attempt whatsoever to encourage a positive shift.

    She could be full of crap. She's certainly been hard-core anti-gun in the past. But now she's shooting, even the evil black rifles, and talking about restoring fundamental rights for everyone. It's entirely possible she's being honest and has changed her position on some things...it's happened before. She's even said she's changed her thoughts on guns. I'm not saying we need to go all in on Gabbard. But what's the harm in listening to what she has to say? She can always be judged by how her words are reflected in her actions going forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post

    She is a full on Democrat and anti 2A unless it gets her votes like RINOs.
    What's she trying to get votes for? She's not even running for any office...

    Right now she's simply a former congresswoman and current political pundit that's endorsing republicans and talking shit about Dems. That's good for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I'm always amazed by some on these forums...

    Constant, non-stop bitching about the left being anti-gun and how that's awful, blah, blah, blah. And it is. But when someone has a change of heart and actually appears to be trying to change their outlook on things (which is what appears to be happening with Gabbard), still bitching. No attempt whatsoever to encourage a positive shift.

    She could be full of crap. She's certainly been hard-core anti-gun in the past. But now she's shooting, even the evil black rifles, and talking about restoring fundamental rights for everyone. It's entirely possible she's being honest and has changed her position on some things...it's happened before. She's even said she's changed her thoughts on guns. I'm not saying we need to go all in on Gabbard. But what's the harm in listening to what she has to say? She can always be judged by how her words are reflected in her actions going forward.
    Great advice, and something we should keep in mind. The opposite version of this is like in 2012 when Romney and Ryan were the repub ticket. Since then, both showed themselves to be dems in disguise. I still feel awful about going to their rally at Fiddler's Green a few days b4 the election. Still feel dirty...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I'm always amazed by some on these forums...

    Constant, non-stop bitching about the left being anti-gun and how that's awful, blah, blah, blah. And it is. But when someone has a change of heart and actually appears to be trying to change their outlook on things (which is what appears to be happening with Gabbard), still bitching. No attempt whatsoever to encourage a positive shift.

    She could be full of crap. She's certainly been hard-core anti-gun in the past. But now she's shooting, even the evil black rifles, and talking about restoring fundamental rights for everyone. It's entirely possible she's being honest and has changed her position on some things...it's happened before. She's even said she's changed her thoughts on guns. I'm not saying we need to go all in on Gabbard. But what's the harm in listening to what she has to say? She can always be judged by how her words are reflected in her actions going forward.
    I completely agreed. Could it not be, that the extreme overreach that we've seen by the left over the last several years, caused a person to sit back and say "What have I been thinking all these years, maybe we actually DO need the rights protected by the 2a" or something similar. We only see a fraction of the shady shit happening within politics, someone who has "been there" is much more enlightened than that general public, and if you have ANY sort of integrity, your eyes may open eventually. My mom was a lifelong Dem, not hardcore leftist or anything, but that's how she voted, sometime during the Obama administration she said enough, and has voted Republican ever since. People can change.

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