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    For a republican to win, they need to get the vote of the on the fence or the undecided voter. Trump is NOT the person to get those votes. It will be the same or worse than 2020. Democrats could run a head of broccoli and their followers would vote for it. The undecided and on the fence would too because it’s something besides Trump. Broccoli could possibly be better than what we have now with Biden, so maybe they will try it.
    The focus for the R should be getting the votes from those that the need to. Those people are not us, or the strong Republicans. We/ they will vote R even if it happens to be Trump. Absolutely need to get the votes I stated before, and also the votes for those who liked Trump but won’t vote for him again because they are tired of all the nonsense that comes with him.
    A good perspective of the situation.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63638929
    Last edited by colorider; 11-16-2022 at 12:18.

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    Trump for worm food 2023...

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    Until the GOP learn to harvest ballots, own the mail in ballots, corrupt votes, corrupt data, 3am ballot drops, block observers etc they could run Jesus Christ himself.

    They still wouldn't win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P View Post
    Trump for worm food 2023...
    Quote Originally Posted by colorider View Post
    For a republican to win, they need to get the vote of the on the fence or the undecided voter. Trump is NOT the person to get those votes. It will be the same or worse than 2020. Democrats could run a head of broccoli and their followers would vote for it. The undecided and on the fence would too because it’s something besides Trump. Broccoli could possibly be better than what we have now with Biden, so maybe they will try it.
    The focus for the R should be getting the votes from those that the need to. Those people are not us, or the strong Republicans. We/ they will vote R even if it happens to be Trump. Absolutely need to get the votes I stated before, and also the votes for those who liked Trump but won’t vote for him again because they are tired of all the nonsense that comes with him.
    A good perspective of the situation.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63638929

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    Quote Originally Posted by colorider View Post
    For a republican to win, they need to get the vote of the on the fence or the undecided voter. Trump is NOT the person to get those votes. It will be the same or worse than 2020. Democrats could run a head of broccoli and their followers would vote for it. The undecided and on the fence would too because it’s something besides Trump. Broccoli could possibly be better than what we have now with Biden, so maybe they will try it.
    The focus for the R should be getting the votes from those that the need to. Those people are not us, or the strong Republicans. We/ they will vote R even if it happens to be Trump. Absolutely need to get the votes I stated before, and also the votes for those who liked Trump but won’t vote for him again because they are tired of all the nonsense that comes with him.
    A good perspective of the situation.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63638929
    This ^^^^^^ 2-3 months after he was elected I made a comment that I continued to make for the next four years. Would he just shut up already. and the comment he made before the mid terms said it all.
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    What colorider didn't mention is the unprecedented amount of negative coverage Trump will continue to receive.

    If you think it was "All Trump, All The Time" before...

    Interesting article in The Federalist about "Generation Z" and their lack of ability to think for themselves due to constant immersion in social media.

    https://thefederalist.com/2022/11/16...own-interests/

    "Every day, I witness their lack of reasoning skills and personal drive. This in turn causes them to be disturbingly introverted and handle most of their interactions with people through social media. Many have no real community or deep-seated beliefs and act more on feelings than principle."

    "Instead, they spend most of their waking life on the internet, consuming mindless content and dreaming up fake personas for themselves. And as a result, they are largely immature, lonely, and neurotic."

    "For young people, nearly every narrative and social phenomenon now originate from the internet. This means that it's the dumb and disturbed "influencers" online, not parents or teachers, informing this next generation about politics, economics, and culture."

    While the last line has always been true- socially popular personas having more influence than traditional dogma- it may be more true today than ever before due to the ubiquity of internet devices and the seeming lack of parental involvement.

    Many, if not most of these "influencers" lean left. There is also the corruptibility factor. If a kid on TikTok with thousands of subscribers is offered thousands of dollars by a political action committee to extol the virtues of their candidate or issue, will he take the money or make a principled stand?

    Money.

    Will a viewer seek out the other side to make an informed decision?

    Unlikely.
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    Here,s a hot take.

    https://theamericanclassroom.substac...sFreemail=true

    Interesting. Chew on the meat, spit out the bones.
    Last edited by Joe_K; 11-16-2022 at 21:15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_K View Post
    Here,s a hot take.

    https://theamericanclassroom.substac...sFreemail=true

    Interesting. Chew on the meat, spit out the bones.
    It certainly is a hot take. Poorly written and full of childish rantings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    It certainly is a hot take. Poorly written and full of childish rantings.
    Care to elaborate?

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    Maybe it's time to recognize that Trump was never the great candidate so many wanted him to be?

    Maybe we should admit that the ONLY reason Trump won in 2016 was because (a) he was running against one of the most unpopular, divisive and weak candidates to run for office in most of our lifetimes and (b) Hillary and her handlers were so confident of victory that they basically considered the election already won and did not do the hard work it takes to get elected.

    Hillary never won an election that was not handed to her (the NY State senate.) Back in the 1990's, the Democratic party created this myth of "the Clinton Magic" that basically said Bill and Hillary Clinton were this "power couple" that had amazing political skills. They created this myth because they desperately WANTED it to be true, that Hillary and Bill were political equals who both had the ability to achieve political goals.

    Of course, we all know this is nonsense: Hillary NEVER had any political skills and was always a shrill, doctrinaire lefty. It was BILL Clinton who possessed the skills and talent to schmooze politicians from both sides of the fence with his boyish good looks and "aw, shucks!" Southern-boy charm. Hillary was always the ice queen. Nobody liked her in the 1990's and nobody likes her now. Like milk left out of the fridge, she hasn't aged well.

    But the Dems WANTED to believe she was this "Female Bill Clinton" so they created this mythical idea of her as a great politician and they furiously purged the party of anybody who dared to disagree.

    Getting back to Trump, he was always a terrible candidate, but he had the fortune of running against Hillary. As I said, not only was Hillary propped up by both her own party and the fawning of the news media and entertainment industry (who helped push the myth of the "great female politician") but she and her team were so confident that they'd beat Trump, the obnoxious asshole, that they basically wiffed on the whole campaign. Hillary didn't even appear in many of the battleground states of the midwest because she's lazy and she figured she had the election locked down so why should she put in any effort?

    That's also the reason the Democrats completely lost their shit over Trump's victory. They had already assumed Hillary would win so Trump's election was a shock to them.
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