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    Default Pissing Off Putin.

    Any thoughts on the Zelensky visit to the Whitehouse to collect his Patriot missiles and billions in $$$. I?m thinking it?s going to piss of Putin enough to fire off some mass destruction weapons into Ukraine. To ?defend his territory? as he has previously stated. My thought, big mistake having him come here to chat with Ol Joe. Especially on a U.S Military plane. Poking the bear as they say.

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    Maybe Zelensky had to drop off the 10% for the big guy in person? Every estimate I've seen says the US is far more invested in this war than the Russians... makes me wonder what is motivating this administration. Of course Ukraine good, Russia bad. No corruption to see here.

    Who is going to train the Ukrainian troops to operate and maintain the patriot system? Any 14Ts shipping out soon? A Patriot battery can need as many as 90 troops to operate and maintain it.

    15 DEC 22- Russian Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova said in a weekly briefing Thursday that “the U.S. has effectively become a party” to the war in Ukraine.
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    It's a measure of the civility in this country that no ones seems to fear constantly pissing off the people who own lots of guns.

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    Forgive me if I am stating the obvious, but the original Hunter Biden laptop scandal, was not about him and hookers, but it was him selling access to "The Big Guy," to the Ukraine!

    https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-...iz-man-to-dad/

    -John

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    My neighbor has a "Fuck Putin" bumper sticker.

    Previously it was some sort of "Why do you elect Dumb People" an attack against Trump, I am sure.

    Someone, or something, is demonizing people to the masses.

    Never mind her personal financial situation. Never mind she has two young kids to raise.

    The worst thing in her life today, is Putin. It used to be (probably still is) Trump.

    -John
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    People wildly underestimate, misinterpret, and misunderstand Putin. Go back 20 years and listen/watch some of his speeches where he speaks about his foreign policy towards the U.S. & NATO. It is pretty easy to understand what he is after, and what he is not. If you get your news on Putin from anywhere else you?re going to have a skewed perspective.
    Last edited by Joe_K; 12-22-2022 at 18:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_K View Post
    If you get your news on Putin from anywhere else you're going to have a skewed perspective.
    Regardless of a news source, the perspective is skewed.

    Those that wish to make up their own minds on issues should read every possible source from all sides and draw their own conclusions.

    Regarding Putin, no one can claim to understand his goals, nor that of any man. People, especially politicians, have a long history words and actions that do not reveal their true intentions. Often until it it too late.

    His seemingly obvious goals are to resurrect the might Mother Russia had under the Soviet Union. His true aspirations are anyone's guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    Regardless of a news source, the perspective is skewed.

    Those that wish to make up their own minds on issues should read every possible source from all sides and draw their own conclusions.

    Regarding Putin, no one can claim to understand his goals, nor that of any man. People, especially politicians, have a long history words and actions that do not reveal their true intentions. Often until it it too late.

    His seemingly obvious goals are to resurrect the might Mother Russia had under the Soviet Union. His true aspirations are anyone's guess.
    People lie. Including politicians, translators, think tanks, intelligence agency operatives, news media talking heads, journalists, and forum users. I prefer to listen to people and make up my own mind on what they are saying, judged against prior behavior, while trying to understand their history and squaring that with the various narratives being drawn up by their friends and enemies.

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    Can you please summarize it, for the benefit of this forum?

    -John

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    Can you please summarize it, for the benefit of this forum?

    -John
    No. It?s very easy to find and listen to some speeches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_K View Post
    No. It?s very easy to find and listen to some speeches.
    so what you're saying is you're talking out of your ass. got it.

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