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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    Anyway, this new system hopes to overcome past communications issues. That's pretty much all it's designed to do.

    Except that they say it will be used similar to the Amber and Silver alerts executed currently, which is a broad spectrum notification. Sorry Mr. and Mrs. Johnson of Highlands Ranch- We know your adult daughter didn't make it home from work yesterday and is missing, but we can't use this new alert protocol since she isn't "indigenous".
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    Except that they say it will be used similar to the Amber and Silver alerts executed currently, which is a broad spectrum notification. Sorry Mr. and Mrs. Johnson of Highlands Ranch- We know your adult daughter didn't make it home from work yesterday and is missing, but we can't use this new alert protocol since she isn't "indigenous".
    https://bja.ojp.gov/library/publicat...ork-fact-sheet

    Sure they can. It is call an "Ashanti" alert.

    "...the federal Ashanti Alert Act of 2018, which establishes a voluntary nationwide communication network to aid in the search and recovery of missing persons between the ages of 18 and 64..."

    I agree that all these different alerts tend to take the edge off of each other and lessen the supposed importance of all of them, to the public.

    I question the effectiveness of any of them, other than to law enforcement.

    I have never seen anyone go running outside with binoculars after one was issued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    https://bja.ojp.gov/library/publicat...ork-fact-sheet

    Sure they can. It is call an "Ashanti" alert.

    "...the federal Ashanti Alert Act of 2018, which establishes a voluntary nationwide communication network to aid in the search and recovery of missing persons between the ages of 18 and 64..."

    I agree that all these different alerts tend to take the edge off of each other and lessen the supposed importance of all of them, to the public.

    I question the effectiveness of any of them, other than to law enforcement.

    I have never seen anyone go running outside with binoculars after one was issued.

    So why can't they use the Ashanti Alert for indigenous persons instead of a whole new category based solely on race?
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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    So why can't they use the Ashanti Alert for indigenous persons instead of a whole new category based solely on race?
    Because, vote buying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    FBI doesn't care about dead Native women so much... that's for the tribal police to figure out.
    That's not what Hollywood tells us...

    Cory Lambert is a wildlife officer who finds the body of an 18-year-old woman on an American Indian reservation in snowy Wyoming. When the autopsy reveals that she was raped, FBI agent Jane Banner arrives to investigate. Teaming up with Lambert as a guide, the duo soon find that their lives are in danger while trying to solve the mystery of the teen's death.




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    Quote Originally Posted by .455_Hunter View Post
    So why can't they use the Ashanti Alert for indigenous persons instead of a whole new category based solely on race?
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    Because, vote buying
    Yes, pandering for votes, also virtue signalling.

    Possibly a fear of getting scalped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint45 View Post
    Tribal police are not well funded or trained, comparatively, and generally do not network with other tribes.

    There have been a few cases where an unidentified indigenous woman's body was found within another tribe's borders, and it took a lot longer than it should've to figure out who they were. A lot of indigenous women get abducted every year, most wind up dead, and a lotta people don't really seem to care.

    Anyway, this new system hopes to overcome past communications issues. That's pretty much all it's designed to do. If a white woman's body is found on the reservation they'll probably call the FBI. FBI doesn't care about dead Native women so much... that's for the tribal police to figure out.
    What Clint said. Minority group with a massive overrepresentation in crimes committed against Women and kids. I?m all for helping solve that issue. There aren?t going to be resources pulled from other missing minority groups. Not sure why anyone would be upset with helping find missing people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_K View Post
    Minority group with a massive overrepresentation in crimes committed against Women and kids. I?m all for helping solve that issue. There aren?t going to be resources pulled from other missing minority groups. Not sure why anyone would be upset with helping find missing people.

    All of that is fine expect for why they need a race based alert system when others are already available. I have no issues with funds being directed towards problem areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    That's not what Hollywood tells us...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_K View Post
    What Clint said. Minority group with a massive overrepresentation in crimes committed against Women and kids. I?m all for helping solve that issue. There aren?t going to be resources pulled from other missing minority groups. Not sure why anyone would be upset with helping find missing people.
    Duplicative government function. Why do it once when doing twice costs more but ends with the same result.

    Government waste. $600k diverted from being used elsewhere. The Indians could cooperate without the extra money. An alert can be sent without creating a new system. But if you have ever been in the 4 corners area, tribe vs tribe hatred and segregation.

    This is nothing but $600k being flushed for votes and the appearance of doing something.

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