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    Default California Mass Shooting- Biased Editing?

    https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-mass-shooting

    10 killed, 10 injured.

    When I first read the story this morning about 6:00, it said, "They said there was a man with a machine gun in the area. The shooter, they said, had multiple rounds of ammunition, so that once his ammunition ran out he reloaded, Choi said."

    I looked at it again about 7:30 and it had changed to, "They said there was a man with a semiautomatic gun in the area..."

    I send an email to one of the writers asking why the change, since they were quoting witnesses and the police have not identified what weapon was used.

    I am pretty sure why it was changed- politics. Machine guns are illegal. Semi automatics are a current hot button issue for leftists. Claiming a semi auto was used is likely to stir up more emotional support for the banning of the guns.

    I could be wrong and there was new information presented between the times I read the article.

    But I doubt it.

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    From Sun, January 22, 2023 at 2:54 AM MST

    Naturally the story changes as those who deem it , want it to read.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-re...095431260.html

    The friend then fled to Wei's home at around 11 p.m., he said, adding that his friends told him that the shooter appeared to fire indiscriminately with a long gun.
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    This story mentions machinegun...

    https://l.smartnews.com/LBGfc/lMXNRK

    "The people also told Choi that there was a shooter with a machine gun who had multiple rounds of ammunition on him so he could reload. Choi said he believes the shooting took place at a dance club."

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    https://www.foxnews.com/us/californi...-year-festival

    Sources told Fox News that police believe the two incidents are connected and that they know the suspected gunman's identity. The sources said a "high-powered assault rifle" was used.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/multiple-d...ry?id=96592246

    The gunman opened fire shortly after entering a dance hall, where people had been celebrating the holiday, police said. It was unclear what type of weapon he used, police said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    The sources said a "high-powered assault rifle" was used.
    I'm wanting to get others honest perspective on this.

    In so much of the reporting of these incidents we see the term "high-powered assault rifle" used.

    If the bad guys in these incidents used a .22LR AR-based platform (like a S&W M&P 15-22) or a 9mm AR, or any other caliber not generally specific to a rifle round, would they still be referred to as "high-powered"? I get that any time the aesthetics of the firearm are of an AR-type they will always demonize it as an evil "assault rifle" so I want to focus on the "high-powered" aspect of the reporting.

    I suspect combining "high-powered" and "assault rifle" will always be used, regardless of the caliber of the firearm - just to create more sensationalism.

    Just curious what you all think about this.
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    This subject drives me nuts.

    Any black rifle is "high powered" to the uninformed.

    A .223 is not a high power rifle. It is a high velocity rifle, for sure. But 1300 ft-lbs of energy is not what I would consider powerful.

    More than a 9mm? Sure. But not too high when it comes to rifle calibers.

    On an AR-15 platform, a .50 Beowolf runs 2300-2600 ft-lbs. A .450 Bushmaster around 2400.

    An AR-10, which looks the same to most, can be calibered for the .338 Lapua, chucking a Hornady 270gr ELD-X at 2800 fps for 4700 ft-lbs of energy. Now THAT's a "high power" rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    I'm wanting to get others honest perspective on this.

    In so much of the reporting of these incidents we see the term "high-powered assault rifle" used.

    If the bad guys in these incidents used a .22LR AR-based platform (like a S&W M&P 15-22) or a 9mm AR, or any other caliber not generally specific to a rifle round, would they still be referred to as "high-powered"? I get that any time the aesthetics of the firearm are of an AR-type they will always demonize it as an evil "assault rifle" so I want to focus on the "high-powered" aspect of the reporting.

    I suspect combining "high-powered" and "assault rifle" will always be used, regardless of the caliber of the firearm - just to create more sensationalism.

    Just curious what you all think about this.
    Anything, accurate or not, to create fear of firearms, especially EBR's and sensationalize the reporting is fair game to biased media. If they can demonize those of us who own, collect and shoot these platforms, so much the better.

    As has been noted the stories change regularly and quickly because the reporters DGARA about accuracy, only clicks and satisfying their bias.

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    In addition to the above I just hope the shitbag gets his ticket punched real soon. Save everyone involved from a trial and all that brings for the families of the victims.

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    Much disappointment in the media and political circles as the perp is an asian male age 30-50, and not an age 18-25 incel white male or just an old racist boomer white male.
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    Unpossible.
    (In anguished wailing)
    An incident like this could never happen in California.
    Giffords Law Center gives CA a #1 rating for its firearm laws along with numerous other organizations.
    California is the example of gun control in the nation.
    They have laws that prevent something like this from happening in California.
    Right?



    Right?



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