Foxtrot, i think everyone is saying (well i can't speak for everyone), so i am saying:

I would draw the instant i saw the knife....not shoot. it is a perceived threat but I can't tell you if i am in fear for my life (I wasn't there). But just seeing the knife pulled out is enough to instantly draw the weapon.


You say cops pull their guns a lot but rarely shoot. Cops also aren't snuck up on in the middle of the night and surprised by three thugs one with a knife out. They are in uniform, get respect (most of the time) from about everyone and people know they have a gun, people know the cops know how to use the gun, they know they will get into trouble for trying to fuck with a cop. hardly the same. And most of the time cops are called to a scene and are prepared for whats going on or have some sort of idea as to the scenario where a CCW might just be walking along talking on his cell phone eating a hamburger when all of a sudden they are getting mugged or shot or ??

And to answer your question the average LEO would have a gun drawn on the guy telling him to drop the knife. If the guy reaches into his pocket he will probably be shot. If he complies he probably won't.

We also aren't LEOs, don't have their training, their responsibility or their authority.

In the end we are responsible for our own safety as CCW and that is what we carry for. Helping others using your CCW is a whole other topic.


and the tueller situation could easily apply to this situation. these are all "what ifs" but that is what you are looking for I guess:
what happens if the guy sees bigbear reaching for his wallet or watch and suddenly charges and the other two react and are right behind him. the tueller situation works both ways. the CCW knows the guy is going to charge and would have an even quicker response time. you never know when somebody who just pulled a knife on you wanting all your stuff will run at you or what they are going to do. So i don't see how the tueller scenario does not apply.



ETA: Just read your next couple responses...so it appears we are on the same page as far as drawing not with the intent to kill but to save yourself time if something does go down. the way I read your post it sounded like you were against drawing at all in this situation.
so some of what I read may be redundant or an effort to see my way of thinking but it sounds like we are in agreement it is best to draw and be prepared to shoot but not just draw and shoot.