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    Default Ukraine, One Year Later

    A year ago, I asked on this forum why it was a good idea for the United States to be involved in this eastern European border conflict.

    Many of you responded positively, stating it was a good idea, citing several reasons.

    One year, and roughly $113 billion later (give or take a few billion, who's really counting?), do those previous supporters still feel it is a good idea for the United States to be involved?

    There's certainly has been a shift in right wing punditry with many of them claiming this is now a boondoggle.

    How much of that is honest and how much of it is anti-Biden? Who knows.

    For those of you that have previously argued that is a good idea for the United States to send military aid to Ukraine, do you still feel that way? And why? Has there been any benefit to the United States?

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    Pretty sure I hated it from the start. I like Putin.

    Do you realize that Russia carries almost no debt?

    -John

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    Pretty sure I hated it from the start. I like Putin.

    Do you realize that Russia carries almost no debt?

    -John
    Since they recently went through a financial collapse/reboot/restart, they shouldnt have any debt. On a side note, by law he gets a sizeable personal kickback on all oil/gas sold in Russia. He is very possibly the most wealthy person in the world, by a factor, not a percentage. Corruption is simply a matter of how it is defined.

    He is a pretty dispicable person. However, I do respect the fact that he always follows a Russia first policy.
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    What are you talking about?

    They haven't had a collapse or a reboot, that I am aware of.

    Can you please point this out to me?

    -John

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    1991 - 1993?

    Pretty easy to turn debts into nothing when inflation is in teh 1000s percent range. Then when it is over, knock a few zeros off currency value and good to go.
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    30 years ago is recent?

    Have you seen what we have done to our economy in the last 4 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    30 years ago is recent?

    Have you seen what we have done to our economy in the last 4 years?

    -John

    Wait, did you think I was being critical? It is the same path we are on. Just about the only way we are gonna flush our debt too.


    that or create a new currency disconnected from the dollar. That would suck.
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    No, I don't think we are flushing our debt.

    I own our debt.

    You are going to flush me?

    -John

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    No, I don't think we are flushing our debt.

    I own our debt.

    You are going to flush me?

    -John
    I am not a financial advisor. But I wouldnt hold any bonds for more than the very short term going forward. Each must decide for themselves.

    Keep in mind, the Soviets didnt expect Russia to turn over either.
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