Pistol Brace Amnesty

[DDT951]

Probably an old topic and too late for many.

But there was always a question is ?it?s a trap? and sending incriminating info and not getting stamps.

This is anecdotal and my personal experience only.

1) If you did the paperwork right and had proof of transfer via notarized documents to trust before the final rule date the ATF approves tax free form 1 for trust.
2) The only photos that were required were that of the serial number.
3) The ATF is issuing the tax free registration stamps.

I know not everyone agrees with the registration. But in my case with having NFA items already, what does registering more hurt? This has meant that all the braced pistols can now be used as more SBRs. If the braces are overturned, lowers are cheap. Getting more pistols if braces are over turned just means pistols without braces could then just be fitted with braces again.

But if you missed out, it?s too late. If you are waiting, they will come.

[Oscar77]

What is your point?
I mean are you looking for someone to reassure you that you did the right thing.................... or????

[DDT951]

What is your point?
I mean are you looking for someone to reassure you that you did the right thing.................... or????

No. Telling people reality. If you recall this was huge topic when it came out.

“Experts” were saying it was a trap. It wasn’t true. Don’t do it. All the negatives.

My experience is indicating that what the experts said wasn’t true.

And also jumping on it early and clicking the red button the ATF said earlier than they wanted what hoops to jump through (notarized transfer to trust of non NFA item) to be able to register with tax forbearance to a trust. I don’t think they intended to say that (with the red button is said “if you didn’t do this prior to Jan 31, it won’t be accepted).

If anything I am kicking myself in the butt for not registering more pistols.

[APEXgunparts]

I did the amnesty registration of a MKE AP5 (personal not a trust) and its an approved SBR now.
I went thru the system at SDS Guns so filed with electronic fingerprint cards.
The ATF added the "red button" to the E-Forms accounts on Friday, I filled the form-1 on that Saturday, came back in a month.
I included pictures of the markings on the receiver as the ATF had stated they would be willing to use the factory markings and no engraving on my part was required.
The "red button" went away when the amnesty ended, now it will cost you $200 to form 1 an SBR.

Here is the result of that effort to form 1 the AP5:

Nice that once its done you don't have to keep the brace on it!

Richard

[Eric P]

The end goal of the law suits is to remove SB whatever from the NFA. The USSC can fix an oversight from thier ending the pistol ban nonsense.

[FoxtArt]

No risk of it being a trap. There is not the resources to deal with the # of cases and the amount of litigation that would induce, and they also would lose virtually all the litigation.

The paranoid folks literally have no legal experience. If your county is mailing out something to 50 people, THATS a trap. If the nation is offering 500k people free SBRs, no State has the resource to prosecute and it's also called "Entrapment" and there's ancient SCOTUS cases going back, and the old '69 Amnesty (or whatever it was) that provides precedence for protection.

If they ever "come for SBRs" decades from now then people lose a $39 lower. Whoopty-dooo-dah-day. But in the intermediate decades, these people will be shooting them at ranges, while the pistol brace "they don't know about it" guns get left at home.

Lastly, there's a little secret that a lot of people don't think about. SBRs are NFA firearms, not GCA firearms. Legislation that amends the GCA is likely to have little, and possibly no effect, on SBRs. So say someday a national AWB passes that Grandfathers all ARs and prohibits transfers via amendment to the GCA... there is a possibility that the SBRs are entirely unaffected.

It would be dumb to Amnesty register everything someone has... but free SBRs are a smart proposition.

[HBARleatherneck]

The whole thing is just testing the waters by the ATF. Now they know people will willing register. Now they can mandate registering all semis, then pumps, then levers, break opens. And people will do it willingly. This was a cheap test for them.

Are they legally able to offer a free tax stamp? When you get money from the government sometimes the refund or cancellation is taxable.

[kidicarus13]

The whole thing is just testing the waters by the ATF. Now they know people will willing register. Now they can mandate registering all semis, then pumps, then levers, break opens. And people will do it willingly. This was a cheap test for them.

A 0.6%-8% compliance rate is a huge failure IMO.
https://thereload.com/atf-says-a-qua...ol-brace-rule/

[DDT951]

The whole thing is just testing the waters by the ATF. Now they know people will willing register. Now they can mandate registering all semis, then pumps, then levers, break opens. And people will do it willingly. This was a cheap test for them.

Are they legally able to offer a free tax stamp? When you get money from the government sometimes the refund or cancellation is taxable.

They would likely have to send out a 1099-Misc form for it to be reported.

[kidicarus13]

They would likely have to send out a 1099-Misc form for it to be reported.

Those applicants that submitted before June 1st did not receive a tax stamp (assuming approval), so there is nothing to report.