Colorado P80 type frame serialization

[kidicarus13]

Has anyone observed an FFL engraved P80-type frame in anticipation of the new Colorado 80% frame and receiver law going into effect January 1? I'm just curious what the required serial number looks like. The pic is a California example.

[zimagold]

I havent even heard of any FFLs interested in doing it as a service.

Am I reading the law correctly that all frame/receivers kits, i.e. unfinished 80% lowers are illegal now too?

Edit: Effective Jan 1 2024

[Eric P]

A P80 before milling/drilling is not a firearm, correct? So anyone can engrave a number on a non-firearm without needing to be a FFL.

So, if you engrave a number on the plate before making it a firearm, would you be in compliance with the silly Colorado unconstitutional law? Wouldn't need to get a pointless background check?

[kidicarus13]

A person who owns, on the date the bill becomes effective, a firearm, frame, or receiver that the person manufactured and that is not imprinted with a serial number by a federal firearms licensee, shall, no later than January 1, 2024, have the firearm, frame, or receiver imprinted with a serial number.

[zimagold]

I was wondering about this section:

?(1) "UNFINISHED FRAME OR RECEIVER" MEANS ANY FORGING, CASTING, PRINTING, EXTRUSION, MACHINED BODY, OR SIMILAR ARTICLE THAT HAS REACHED A STAGE IN MANUFACTURE WHEN IT MAY READILY BE COMPLETED, ASSEMBLED, OR CONVERTED TO BE USED AS THE FRAME OR RECEIVER OF A FUNCTIONAL FIREARM; OR THAT IS MARKETED OR SOLD TO THE PUBLIC TO BECOME OR BE USED AS THE FRAME OR RECEIVER OF A FUNCTIONAL FIREARM ONCE COMPLETED, ASSEMBLED, OR CONVERTED.?

Unlawful conduct involving an unserialized firearm, frame, or receiver - exceptions - penalties - authority to serialize a firearm. (1) (a) A PERSON SHALL NOT KNOWINGLY POSSESS OR TRANSPORT AN UNFINISHED FRAME OR RECEIVER;

Edit: I wasn?t trying to derail your thread, just trying to figure out if it applies to unfinished 80% kits as well.

[kidicarus13]

OR THAT IS MARKETED OR SOLD TO THE PUBLIC TO BECOME OR BE USED AS THE FRAME OR RECEIVER OF A FUNCTIONAL FIREARM ONCE COMPLETED, ASSEMBLED, OR CONVERTED.

I don't know what else they would be referring to besides 80%

[zimagold]

I missed that in the original posts and thought it was just firearms completed from 80% kits. I didn't realize it also included language about unfinished kits as well until looking at the full text recently. Thanks

[kidicarus13]

"The government you elect is the government you deserve." - Thomas Jefferson

Not speaking to anyone in particular.

[def90]

Wonder how the recent court ruling that vacated the whole ATF 80% thing will play out as well as Bruen in regards to these "ghost gun" laws. A federal judge even ruled last year that a firearm doesn't need a serial number and it can be removed after the fact.

[kidicarus13]

It'll be like gas prices... Up $0.50 overnight (gun restrictions), and it'll take months to come back down $0.50.