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    One of my best friends has a girlfriend that is from Eastern Ukraine. Her and her mom now live with him. She fled Ukraine in the early days of the war and is a refugee. Nothing to go back to now.

    She doesn’t speak Ukrainian; she speaks Russian (and English.. learning German)

    She doesn’t like Putin or Zelenskyy. After the war started a law was passed that the Russian speaking regions were no longer allowed to speak Russian or do any government business in Russian it all has to be in Ukrainian.

    She doesn’t like Putin bassist of the war and is Ukrainian.

    She has family members in Russia right over the border. (Her home village is 20 minutes from border)

    The two states have created a very difficult for many of the people who resided in that area. They have more russian (eastern) culture and language but Ukraine nationalism. But now they don’t like either side.

    It is a mess that even when it ends will start again… we have been seeing this since WW1 with ethnic people living in a different country which causes problems.

    Go to Sued Tirol Italy to see this on display. The sign driving in says “Italy”. Right next to that is a handmade sign on private property that reads “Sid Tirol is Not Italy”. The people have not forgotten and it accepted since Italy’s claim to the land they took in WW1.

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    @arbol I usually try to bite my tongue, but you're an idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    Russia absolutely has a claim on the territory occupied by the Ukraine today, and to say they don't, is disingenuous, or more likely ignorant, or fooled by the press and the new world order.

    As described in the Putin interview, there is a long Russian history in the region.

    Look it up on Wiki, and you will see that Russia used to encompass Kiev, etc.

    The territory in question, is full of Russians, that speak Russian, and go to the same church as Russians.

    This is a purely made up war, likely to hide the Biden Crime Family's relationship with the Ukraine.

    A war which we will lose, because the people in the right, are the Russians.

    -John
    Following this line of reasoning, England would be justified in attacking the eastern United States, since it owned the area for almost 200 years. There are still people there that speak English and go to English churches.

    Italy would be justified in attempting to conquer England, since it has a long history in the region, having controlled it for about 370 years (40-410 AD). They could also claim much of Europe, a sizable chunk of eastern Asia the entire Mediterranean coast of Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    The world is full of countries that used to be parts of other countries including most of the United States. Should we open the doors to every territorial beef that exists around the world?
    Did you read my second message in this thread, about how the Ukraine is becoming a NATO bitch, and obviously Russia does not like this. Joe Biden and company are indebted to the Ukraine, and deeply involved in its success. They are likely being extorted by the Ukranian Government/Zelinsky.

    So, it is not JUST that there are regions of the Ukraine that are more Russian than Ukranian, it's that combined with the fact that Joe Biden, NATO, are westernizing the Ukraine.

    It would be like Russia, camping in Mexico. I'm pretty sure we wouldn't take that, and so why would Russia?

    -John

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbol View Post
    Did you read my second message in this thread, about how the Ukraine is becoming a NATO bitch, and obviously Russia does not like this. Joe Biden and company are indebted to the Ukraine, and deeply involved in its success. They are likely being extorted by the Ukranian Government/Zelinsky.

    So, it is not JUST that there are regions of the Ukraine that are more Russian than Ukranian, it's that combined with the fact that Joe Biden, NATO, are westernizing the Ukraine.

    It would be like Russia, camping in Mexico. I'm pretty sure we wouldn't take that, and so why would Russia?

    -John

    So this is all because of Joe Biden and not a sovereign country that has the right to ally itself an do business with whomever they choose in the world and a leader that is essentially a dictator who has continually expressed that he believes that the break up of the USSR was one of the greatest tragedies in world history? What about the other former Warsaw Pact USSR satellite countries that border Russia and are now members of NATO? Is it their turn to drop trow and take it up the ass from Putin?

    The whole Biden / Ukraine narrative is just as bullshit as any other.
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    Yes, it is about Joe Biden, and his crime family.

    They ARE being actively exploited by Zelinsky, and the Ukraine.

    From:Wiki

    Burisma Holdings Limited (Ukrainian: Бурісма Холдингс) was a holding company based in Kyiv, Ukraine, for a group of energy exploration and production companies. It was registered in Limassol, Cyprus, until being dissolved in 2023.[5] Burisma Holdings operated in the Ukrainian natural gas market since 2002. It was one of the largest private natural gas producers in Ukraine, circa 2019.[6][7] It was owned by Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky through his company Brociti Investments Limited (Ukrainian: Бросіті Інвестментс Лімітед).

    Burisma's subsidiaries included Esko-Pivnich, Pari, Persha Ukrainska Naftogazova Kompaniya, Naftogaz Garant, KUB-Gas and Astroinvest-Ukraine.[8][9][10]

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    In April 2014, Devon Archer, a former senior adviser to the John Kerry 2004 presidential campaign, and Hunter Biden, an attorney and the son of then-US vice president Joe Biden, joined the board.[41][44] Archer left the company in 2018[citation needed] and Hunter Biden left in April 2019, when his term as a director expired.[11]

    -John

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    I mean, back in the USSR days, we wouldn't have given a shit about these internal politics.

    But now that Biden is involved, everything escalates.

    -John

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