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    Default HB24-1174 Concealed Carry Permits & Training

    To Read it from the source: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1174

    http://https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1174

    Concerning permits to carry a concealed handgun, and, in connection therewith, establishing standards for concealed handgun training classes.
    SESSION: 2024 Regular Session
    SUBJECT: Crimes, Corrections, & Enforcement
    BILL SUMMARY
    Under existing law, an applicant for a permit to carry a concealed handgun (permit) must demonstrate competence with a handgun, which the applicant may do by completing a handgun training class (initial class) offered by a verified instructor. Beginning July 1, 2025, the bill requires concealed handgun training classes to be held in person and include instruction regarding:

    Knowledge and safe handling of firearms and ammunition;
    Safe storage of firearms and child safety;
    Safe firearms shooting fundamentals;
    Federal and state laws pertaining to the lawful purchase, ownership, transportation, use, and possession of firearms;
    State law pertaining to the use of deadly force for self-defense; and
    Techniques for avoiding a criminal attack and how to manage a violent confrontation, including conflict resolution and judgmental use of lethal force.
    A student must achieve a passing score on a written concealed handgun competency exam and in a live-fire exercise to complete an initial class. An initial class must provide at least 8 hours of instruction, including the live-fire exercise and written exam.

    The bill requires completion of an initial class or a concealed handgun refresher class (refresher class) for renewal of a permit, unless an exemption applies. A student in a refresher class must demonstrate safety and competence with a handgun. The refresher class must be held in person, be taught by a verified instructor, include instruction on changes to laws related to firearms, and require a passing score on a live-fire exercise and written exam. A refresher class must provide at least 2 hours of instruction, including the live-fire exercise and written exam.

    The bill requires the Colorado bureau of investigation to verify class instructors.

    The bill allows a person to demonstrate competence with a handgun by holding a current certification as a peace officer. The bill prohibits a person from being issued a permit if the person was convicted of certain misdemeanor offenses within 5 years before submitting a permit application.

    The bill makes it a deceptive trade practice for a person to claim to be a verified instructor for a concealed handgun training class unless the person is verified as a firearms instructor by the Colorado bureau of investigation.

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    They'd better nip this in the bud real fast or I see some recall elections coming out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_K View Post
    To Read it from the source: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1174

    http://https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1174

    Concerning permits to carry a concealed handgun, and, in connection therewith, establishing standards for concealed handgun training classes.
    SESSION: 2024 Regular Session
    SUBJECT: Crimes, Corrections, & Enforcement
    BILL SUMMARY
    Under existing law, an applicant for a permit to carry a concealed handgun (permit) must demonstrate competence with a handgun, which the applicant may do by completing a handgun training class (initial class) offered by a verified instructor. Beginning July 1, 2025, the bill requires concealed handgun training classes to be held in person and include instruction regarding:

    Knowledge and safe handling of firearms and ammunition;
    Safe storage of firearms and child safety;
    Safe firearms shooting fundamentals;
    Federal and state laws pertaining to the lawful purchase, ownership, transportation, use, and possession of firearms;
    State law pertaining to the use of deadly force for self-defense; and
    Techniques for avoiding a criminal attack and how to manage a violent confrontation, including conflict resolution and judgmental use of lethal force.

    A student must achieve a passing score on a written concealed handgun competency exam and in a live-fire exercise to complete an initial class. An initial class must provide at least 8 hours of instruction, including the live-fire exercise and written exam.

    The bill requires completion of an initial class or a concealed handgun refresher class (refresher class) for renewal of a permit, unless an exemption applies. A student in a refresher class must demonstrate safety and competence with a handgun. The refresher class must be held in person, be taught by a verified instructor, include instruction on changes to laws related to firearms, and require a passing score on a live-fire exercise and written exam. A refresher class must provide at least 2 hours of instruction, including the live-fire exercise and written exam.

    The bill requires the Colorado bureau of investigation to verify class instructors.

    The bill allows a person to demonstrate competence with a handgun by holding a current certification as a peace officer. The bill prohibits a person from being issued a permit if the person was convicted of certain misdemeanor offenses within 5 years before submitting a permit application.

    The bill makes it a deceptive trade practice for a person to claim to be a verified instructor for a concealed handgun training class unless the person is verified as a firearms instructor by the Colorado bureau of investigation.

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    IIRC, unless you were an attorney or LE. You could not discuss the "Legalities" part of C.R.S. for use of deadly force.

    Looks like every instructor better get a firearm knowledgeable attorney and ins.

    The first time someone uses any of those suggestions, as taught in class. Their instructor is FUKED! Same for those who vote YES on this.

    One way to CYA, is record your curriculum, then play it for the lecture part. This way it's consistent across all classes.

    Or do what they hope you will. Stop teaching CCW classes.
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    Bad enough. Interesting to see what the test and shooting standards are? Just cut and paste the State Police standard or something?

    Is there also a ‘sensitive places’ bill or section that is being considered also?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post

    Is there also a ?sensitive places? bill or section that is being considered also?
    Senate Bill 24-131

    Would ban concealed carry in public parks, community centers, churches, hospitals (or any medical or health facility), banks, meseums, liquor stores, any property owned or leased by state or local government, adjacent parking lots of any of these places and other "sensitive areas" like any place a government meeting occurs, regardless of the government owns or leases it.

    Another, SB 24-003 would allow CBI to investigate guns crimes...you know, to 'help' local law enforcement that is understaffed. But really, it's to bypass the local sheriff's who won't prosecute these new or future gun laws.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Senate Bill 24-131

    Would ban concealed carry in public parks, community centers, churches, hospitals (or any medical or health facility), banks, museums, liquor stores, any property owned or leased by state or local government, adjacent parking lots of any of these places and other "sensitive areas" like any place a government meeting occurs, regardless of the government owns or leases it.

    They've got to make the world safe for mass murdering trannies who target churches.


    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Another, SB 24-003 would allow CBI to investigate guns crimes...you know, to 'help' local law enforcement that is understaffed. But really, it's to bypass the local sheriff's who won't prosecute these new or future gun laws.


    Exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Senate Bill 24-131

    Would ban concealed carry in public parks, community centers, churches, hospitals (or any medical or health facility), banks, meseums, liquor stores, any property owned or leased by state or local government, adjacent parking lots of any of these places and other "sensitive areas" like any place a government meeting occurs, regardless of the government owns or leases it.

    Another, SB 24-003 would allow CBI to investigate guns crimes...you know, to 'help' local law enforcement that is understaffed. But really, it's to bypass the local sheriff's who won't prosecute these new or future gun laws.


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    RMGO has sent a cease and desist tot eh legislature and Polis for 24-131 based on similar bill being found unconstitutional in other states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    Senate Bill 24-131

    Would ban concealed carry in public parks, community centers, churches, hospitals (or any medical or health facility), banks, meseums, liquor stores, any property owned or leased by state or local government, adjacent parking lots of any of these places and other "sensitive areas" like any place a government meeting occurs, regardless of the government owns or leases it.
    Interesting that liquor stores are listed, but bars arent.aren't. That's not even allowed in TX (with very few exceptions- I'm an exception at one place).
    Last edited by 00tec; 02-24-2024 at 15:05.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00tec View Post
    Interesting that liquor stores are listed, but bars arent.aren't. That's not even allowed in TX (with very few exceptions- I'm an exception at one place).
    Can't possess a firearm while under the influence so maybe that already covers the bar thing?

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    Do criminals have to show certification and all this as well? Just curious to know how they think this stops crime.
    Hey, a 15 year old Venezuelas illegal kid was able to get a gun and use it in New York.
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