Thoughts on the this self-defense case?

[.455_Hunter]

25 year old armed black male is cut-off and assaulted by two younger hot-headed white brothers in a road rage incident. The black male shoots both, but does not immediately contact 911 while leaving the scene. The DA filed murder charges, but recently dropped them due to reasons listed in the article...

https://www.denver7.com/news/front-r...others-on-i-25

Your thoughts on the entire case, including the initial incident and the legal wrangling since?

[BushMasterBoy]

Dashcam video would have been helpful. Sounds like they were looking for a fight.

[.455_Hunter]

Dashcam video would have been helpful. Sounds like they were looking for a fight.

Aww, come on man! They couldn't possibly be hot heads...

[CS1983]

Based on the info in the post and article, good shoot. But I wonder if the charges were dropped for more social Justice reasons than proper application of self defense law.

[.455_Hunter]

Based on the info in the post and article, good shoot. But I wonder if the charges were dropped for more social Justice reasons than proper application of self defense law.

Flip the races and what happens? A large active smoke plume coming from downtown Denver with Tay Anderson at the source?

[CS1983]

Flip the races and what happens? A large active smoke plume coming from downtown Denver with Tay Anderson at the source?

Correct. But the law and self defense principles would dictate race isn’t a factor and the shoot is legally good. Hence, my second sentence in the quote.

[.455_Hunter]

But the law and self defense principles would dictate race isn?t a factor and the shoot is legally good.

Unfortunately, we all know that is not always the case, and it can be biased either way depending on the situation and location.

[Aloha_Shooter]

From what little I could get from the article, it sounds like a good shoot. The brothers FAFOed and got the Darwin Award. There doesn't seem to be any reason to assume the charges were dropped for social justice reasons, more likely the DA in question overcharged by jumping immediately to Murder 1. I don't know if there's a statute governing his failure to notify the police of the shooting but if there was anything to prosecute him for, it would be that, not murder. I expect he wanted to get away from the scene in case the brothers had backup coming -- he'd already been harassed as it was -- but he should still have reported it to the police once he got to a safe place.

[CS1983]

From what little I could get from the article, it sounds like a good shoot. The brothers FAFOed and got the Darwin Award. There doesn't seem to be any reason to assume the charges were dropped for social justice reasons, more likely the DA in question overcharged by jumping immediately to Murder 1. I don't know if there's a statute governing his failure to notify the police of the shooting but if there was anything to prosecute him for, it would be that, not murder. I expect he wanted to get away from the scene in case the brothers had backup coming -- he'd already been harassed as it was -- but he should still have reported it to the police once he got to a safe place.

This seems sensible. Though, I think I’d be having a self defense attorney presenting my story if I’d already left the scene.

US Law Shield recommends reporting to 911 you have been a victim of a crime and leave it at that until you have a lawyer present.

[Oscar77]

From what little I could get from the article, it sounds like a good shoot. The brothers FAFOed and got the Darwin Award. There doesn't seem to be any reason to assume the charges were dropped for social justice reasons, more likely the DA in question overcharged by jumping immediately to Murder 1. I don't know if there's a statute governing his failure to notify the police of the shooting but if there was anything to prosecute him for, it would be that, not murder. I expect he wanted to get away from the scene in case the brothers had backup coming -- he'd already been harassed as it was -- but he should still have reported it to the police once he got to a safe place.

I didn't follow this case closely.............. but there have been several, prior, news articles about the pressure on the DA to drop the remaining charge. Mass mailings etc, protests etc........... and yes, race was brought up.
If you google it, they should come up.

And if looked at objectively the question of leaving a scene of something like this is VERY MUCH a "two edged sword."
So I would consider carefully the "doors you are opening" in doing so............

PS:
Read the statement from the Denver Justice Project in the article:
"..........Unfortunately, the delayed injustice he has endured throughout his criminal proceedings has brought to light significant systemic inadequacies and racial disparities in the application of self-defense laws, particularly when Black men are forced to defend themselves against white aggressors. It is our hope that this dismissal not only rectifies the wrongs done to Stephan but also serves as a crucial step toward addressing these broader issues........"