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    Quote Originally Posted by def90 View Post
    Odd that Sullivan had a problem with a blanket assault weapons ban last year but is sponsoring a bill this year which is pretty much the same thing.

    Assuming this is because last year was an election year and that is what the underlying motive is.
    Frankly, I don't find it odd at all. Standard liberal anti-gun hypocrisy where they say (and I think they actually believe) "I'm 100% supporter of the Second Amendment" and immediately follow up with anti-gun actions. These people don't understand that it's black and white or how their own actions are completely at odds with what they claim to believe.
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    Not too worried as Polis wouldn't sign this, it would be devestating to his future run as POTUS. The dems will kill it in a legislative session with this knowledge. For the time being, it's good when their introduction is full-blown-crazy.

    THAT SAID,

    If there's ever a "soft handed" bill we need to be in full panic mode. That's how they passed more than half a dozen "small bites" last session. Don't look to the sweeping ban, look to the little shit stacked next to it.

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    https://youtu.be/V7bLkKtG9FI?si=ZA5aNQ2BoSUKWdzN

    I'm not sure how I feel about another 2A organization, if we could all unite behind one banner I think it would be a lot more effective. But Ava and Lesley have a nice discussion about the Sullivan legislation.
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    It's a measure of the civility in this country that no ones seems to fear constantly pissing off the people who own lots of guns.

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    It's a measure of the civility in this country that no ones seems to fear constantly pissing off the people who own lots of guns.

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    Some media sources also indicate a ban on under 21 ammo purchase (didn't they already do that?) and all ammo must be behind the retail counter (not in the aisle).
    The vagrants of Boulder welcome you...

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    The draconian AWB is to attract the opposition attention so they can get everything else under the wire. Maybe SCOTUS will put an end to the stupidity eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxtArt View Post
    The draconian AWB is to attract the opposition attention so they can get everything else under the wire. Maybe SCOTUS will put an end to the stupidity eventually.
    Well the conference to take AWB, and other 2A cases is tomorrow.

    If they take the cases…. No more AWB.

    If they take it.. enough justices understand 2A that they will side with the people and constitution.

    Tomorrow is a big day telling us the future

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    This bill also bans all nfa items. See page 10.

    https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/defau...25a_003_01.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by RussDXT View Post
    This bill also bans all nfa items. See page 10.

    https://leg.colorado.gov/sites/defau...25a_003_01.pdf
    That's not what that part means, it's not a blanket ban on NFA items. It's amending the existing statute to add in their "rapid fire device" term.

    Current CRS 18-12-102:
    18-12-102. Possessing a dangerous or illegal weapon - affirmative defense -
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    (1) As used in this section, the term “dangerous weapon” means a firearm silencer, machine gun,
    short shotgun, short rifle, or ballistic knife.
    (2) As used in this section, the term “illegal weapon” means a blackjack, a gas gun, or metallic
    knuckles.
    (3) A person who knowingly possesses a dangerous weapon commits a class 5 felony. Each
    subsequent violation of this subsection (3) by the same person shall be a class 4 felony.
    (4) A person who knowingly possesses an illegal weapon commits a class 1 misdemeanor.
    (5) It shall be an affirmative defense to the charge of possessing a dangerous weapon, or to the
    charge of possessing an illegal weapon, that the person so accused was a peace officer or member of
    the armed forces of the United States or Colorado National Guard acting in the lawful discharge of his
    duties, or that said person has a valid permit and license for possession of such weapon.

    Point 5 there, specifically that last bit about valid permit/license is how NFA items are currently legal in CO and would still be legal even if this stupid bill passes. My cursory understanding is that many other states have similar statutes.

    Make no mistake I'm not a fan of the bill, but let's be clear on what it is and isn't. (You'd still be screwed on making say, a new AR SBR or mag fed SBS, but cans and other SBR/SBS/etc would still fly.)

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    Sullivan is either stupid or evil, or Both. It’s an assault weapon ban. I don’t think there’s any other way to rationally explain it. You can sell a gun today the same gun you can’t sell next time. I guess they are probably saying it’s not an assault weapons band because they know Scotus is going to strike down bans, so they’ll be able to say that their law isn’t affected by what’s coming down.
    I'll stop buying black rifles when my wife stops buying black shoes.

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