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    The best critique I've read of the CA wildfire disaster comes from the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal dated Jan 9. Note that the extent and cost of the fires has greatly expanded since the article was written.


    California's Wildfire Insurance Catastrophe

    The state has refused to let insurers do proper pricing for risk. Homeowners and taxpayers will pay for the mistake.

    By The Editorial Board
    Jan. 9, 2025 5:36 pm ET

    The politicians are blaming each other for the losses in the horrific Los Angeles wildfires, but the truth is that mother nature can be merciless. The stories about water shortages are conflicting and need more time to sort out. But it?s not too soon to note that California?s politicians have fueled a five-alarm insurance-market crisis that will hurt homeowners and taxpayers across the state once the fires have died out.

    Hurricane-force wind gusts are fanning fires across Los Angeles County, especially the Pacific Palisades and Altadena, where 2,000 structures had burned by Thursday evening, and counting. At least five people have died, and tens of thousands of buildings are at risk. California?s Southland has rarely experienced such strong winds, and the past two wet winters have produced loads of combustible vegetation that has became tinder after recent dry months.

    Such conditions have created a perfect storm that could become the most expensive wildfire disaster in U.S. history. The human tragedy is paramount. But the insurance losses will be in the tens of billions of dollars or more. The damage could topple the state?s undercapitalized insurer of last resort, FAIR. Private carriers are almost certain to increase premiums, cancel policies or withdraw from California.

    Insurers had already scrapped hundreds of thousands of policies and limited coverage in wildfire-prone areas. Democrats blame climate change, which has become an all-purpose excuse for any disaster-relief failure. But the real insurance problem is that state regulators have barred insurers from charging premiums that fully reflect risks and costs.

    California is the only state that heretofore hasn?t allowed insurers to incorporate the cost of reinsurance in premiums. Until this year, it had also prohibited insurers from adjusting premiums by using the standard industry practice of catastrophe modeling to predict a property?s future risk. Insurers could only assess premiums based on historical losses.

    As a result, insurers are paying out $1.09 in expenses and claims for every $1 they collect in premiums. This is financially unsustainable, which is why many have pared coverage in areas at high fire risk with expensive homes. State Farm dropped nearly 70% of policy holders in one Pacific Palisades neighborhood where the average home price is $3.5 million.

    FAIR now covers about half a million homeowners who can?t obtain private coverage. Its exposure has ballooned to $458 billion as of last September from $153 billion four years earlier, with $5.9 billion in exposure in the Palisades. Yet it has only about $700 million cash on hand to pay claims.

    That?s because state regulators have required FAIR to cover higher-priced homes while rejecting its proposals for rate increases to account for rising risk and liabilities, just as it has for private insurers. As home prices and construction costs increase, so do liabilities. Building an ?affordable? housing unit in California can cost $1 million.

    FAIR President Victoria Roach testified to the state Assembly last year about the insurer?s precarious finances. ?As those numbers climb, our financial stability becomes more in question,? she said. ?We are one event away from a large assessment. There?s no other way to say it, because we don?t have the money on hand, and we have a lot of exposure out there.?

    If FAIR fails, private insurers?meaning their policy holders?are supposed to cover its claims based on their share of the market. But insurance premiums for many homeowners are set to rise 20% to 40% this year and even more in the future, and that was before the current fires. To keep carriers from fleeing the market, California insurance commissioner Ricardo Lara last month said at long last that they could use catastrophe modeling and price in their reinsurance costs.

    Such reforms were needed, but he also imposed costly regulations that may still cause some insurers to retreat, especially after the Los Angeles fires. Don?t be surprised if Gov. Gavin Newsom asks Washington to help pay for multimillion-dollar homes that have gone up in smoke.

    Mr. Newsom can blame climate change all he wants, but that doesn?t absolve the state from the duty to adapt to its effects if he really believes this. Unlike the fires, California?s insurance catastrophe really is the fault of the Democrats who run Sacramento.

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    I hear Phoenix real estate agents are getting lots of calls from Cali.

    James Woods has also been vocal about the incompetence.
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    Colorado has the same plan. Should be in effect this summer.

    https://doi.colorado.gov/insurance-p...ents-fair-plan

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    Is calling balls and strikes being political?

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    The arsonist has been released. No charges were filed. You have to watch the video. Unbelievable...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/woodland-...212033293.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy View Post
    The arsonist has been released. No charges were filed. You have to watch the video. Unbelievable...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/woodland-...212033293.html

    Like child sex predators, convicted arsonists should be summarily hanged. JMO

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    "...the man was charged with a probation violation but is not suspected to have caused any fires."

    Everyone trying to blame the on someone; suspected arsonists, State of California, Newsome, Bass, etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    Colorado has the same plan. Should be in effect this summer.

    https://doi.colorado.gov/insurance-p...ents-fair-plan


    That is seriously scary, eddiememphis. To some varying extent, we all live in fire prone areas. Some years ago our insurance was cancelled by Allstate due to the proximity of neighboring trees, and "brush", which was low growing sheep fescue and flowers. An alternative through Lloyds of London was very expensive for years. Eventually, we were able to get into State Farm Mutual which immediately saved us ~6K/year. The agent said that we can't be cancelled. We're holding our breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidicarus13 View Post
    "...the man was charged with a probation violation but is not suspected to have caused any fires."

    Everyone trying to blame the on someone; suspected arsonists, State of California, Newsome, Bass, etc

    If a police officer didn't actually witness someone lighting Christmas trees and garbage on fire despite a witness account, did it really happen? Serious question.

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    Next someone on here, is going to sell me that a Chinese balloon started these fires. Seriously? A guy riding by on a bicycle with a mapp gas torch could not have done it? And he is already on probation for another crime? This reminds me of Linda Stanley prosecuting the death of Suzanne Morphew. Same kind of prosecutorial misconduct. We will be much safer when our convicted felon president takes office. Don't you agree?










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