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    Machine Gunner th3w01f's Avatar
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    We've been watching, emailing and calling but I think the change that was "negotiated" with Polis is the nail in the coffin, and we're fucked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    What is it? I don't like blind links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    What is it? I don't like blind links.
    Seriously? A link posted by a highly regarded member with over 15yrs history on this forum?

    Then don't click on it.

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    This state is definitely circling the drain, politically. Outside of that, I do love CO and family is all here. Not likely we move . . . but never say never I guess.

    In the meantime, I'll just have to stay & fight. And buy a crapload of stuff before the latest asshattery goes into effect. All I can hope is that it makes a rapid trip to SCOTUS and gets canned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BPTactical View Post
    The problem with the link/document it links to is that it stresses governance is at the consent of "we the people" and all legislation passed must fall within consent of the people.

    This is a problem because the legislators within this state are predominantly left/blue. They were voted into office by the left/blue who now outnumber the right/red. This directly implies they (the legislators) have the consent of the majority of the people. And while this document references the state Constitution many times, it effectively says that only laws which are not repugnant to the people are valid. If the majority of the people agree with the law, under democratic law, it is valid.

    We've allowed the language to affix in peoples minds that we are a democracy and forget that we are a Constitutional Republic where the individual, not the majority, is protected against malicious legislation. While we (the right/red) had control of the legislature we failed to put into the state Constitution protections against such legislation. We should have, with unambiguous language, solidified our 2A right within the state Constitution so as to prevent this sort of thing from happening. We failed to do so. What this means is that we're open for this sort of legislation and can only expect it to go to a long, drawn out legal battle in the courts. And, yes, this may very well be overturned by the courts, eventually; but it won't happen overnight.

    With the turn of the state from red to blue, we have little hope of replacing our state elected officials with those who respect our freedoms. I don't anticipate this will change in less than 20-30 years, if ever. This means those in power within the state will feel free to legislate with impunity by feelings vice by adherence to the rights of the citizens.


    ETA: Please don't misconstrue my post to mean that I think it's a waste of time to fight against this sort of tyranny. I strongly encourage everyone to get out there and legally fight against measures like this and make your voices heard as loudly as possible.
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    While i understand BP's anger and rightly so.

    However the writing was on the wall last century when colorado gun owners and voters, in general passed the Gun Show Background Check law.
    I cannot tell you how many gun owners i spoke with regarding this "vote" and why it was bad.
    The average response was Oh i didn't realize they were going to make it so you needed a BGC at gun shows.
    Did you read the voters guise pamphlet? Umm no. well there you go. Once again ignorance and complacency fuked gun owners over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo View Post
    While i understand BP's anger and rightly so.

    However the writing was on the wall last century when colorado gun owners and voters, in general passed the Gun Show Background Check law.
    I cannot tell you how many gun owners i spoke with regarding this "vote" and why it was bad.
    The average response was Oh i didn't realize they were going to make it so you needed a BGC at gun shows.
    Did you read the voters guise pamphlet? Umm no. well there you go. Once again ignorance and complacency fuked gun owners over.
    Or the dang excise tax that creates another .gov agency that was passed this go around. I?ve met way to many gun owners that had no understanding of what was voted on. The conservative groups do well educating those that are involved but do very poorly reaching out to those that are less than interested until it?s too late.


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