Quote Originally Posted by jake View Post
It might surprise you, bearing in mind my political leanings (although I'm - for the sake of argument happy to identify myself as - a liberal and I own and shoot guns so that probably blows someone's mind) that I have no problem with the idea that if an illegal immigrant shows up at a hospital they can be patched up/made stable (basic human decency after all) and then returned to their country of citizenship.


Various studies put the number anywhere between 18-45 thousand a year. Same with the numbers of uninsured, various studies cite different numbers. Critics of those figures suggest that includes illegal immigrants and people who choose to go without insurance rather than can't afford/get which is why I said 10-30million.

well your liberal thinking is off since illegal immigrants don't go home after them come get patched up. The have their kids here and then they end up in the public education system where they not only require special classes (ESL), but they also get free lunch on my tax dollars. Everyone in my family except me is a teacher. I substitute teach. I see it every day I sub and it pisses me off every day I sub because 90% of those little fuckers are the most disrespectful kids I have ever dealt with.

AND that still doesn't avoid the fact that my tax dollars are going freely to someone who broke the FUCKING LAW when they crossed the border illegally then took advantage of the insurance premiums I pay each month working in MY country. What gives them ANY right to come over here and take something from me. That is stealing, not getting "patched up". How could you possibly think that is okay....

You still haven't linked any of your "various studies". I can make up random numbers all day and tell you experts and critics put the number figure around this, but in the end it is like liberal thinking...all bullshit.
Illegal immigrants are criminals from the day they set foot on US soil, so they don't count as un-insured because they shouldn't be here in the first place.
People who CHOOSE not to have health insurance should have that right...not be fined for it like the dems want. If they feel they will be okay and live a safe enough or secluded enough life then fine, that is their choice but their numbers also don't get counted.