Quote Originally Posted by jake View Post
I said "they can be patched up/made stable (basic human decency after all) and then returned to their country of citizenship." I didn't think that was particularly vague. So what's your alternative? An illegal immigrant shows up at the hospital, and your response is..?

So your response is they get turned away from the hospital? Ok, fair enough. It's fine if that, and the following, is your idea, but there aren't going to be many people who share your idea, liberal or conservative and certainly not doctors.

See above.

Seriously? You're basically asserting that I made those numbers up, or pulled them off some blog somewhere... I can only assume you didn't take the precaution of actually checking to make sure there aren't any studies out there which is where I drew those numbers from? It's actually more amusing to NOT give you any links and let you keep insisting I made the numbers up. Disagreeing with the results is one thing, but accusing me of lying based on nothing at all, that's classic. Keep going.

University of Warwick.

You're right, I give up. You caught me out. I made up those numbers. I even planted the studies and stories about the studies. I spent MONTHS putting them out there for an elaborate prank on you, but you're too smart for me. Damn!

I don't remember saying any of that was ok. Link to where I said it was ok, or realize that you were spouting bullshit and give up.
Anyone shows up, they provide insurance card or cash/credit card/some method of payment. You can't pay, sorry. That cuts down on a lot of the fraud/free health care problems. If people want to donate money to create free clinics and doctors donate their time that is more than fine, but MY dollars should not be given away freely to people who aren't in the country legally or who are sucking on the .gov's tit in more than one way (welfare, food stamps etc.). those programs were designed to help people who are truly in need until they can get back on their feet. I am all for that, but I condone it's abuse.

Why would I bother to look for numbers that could be random. How hard is it to post a link that shows where you get your information from?
You wanted to post numbers to try to persuade me to believe something you wrote down yet give no backup information? Doesn't work.

And i never implied you said any of that was okay. I placed you in the group of liberals since you are a self proclaimed liberal and you mentioned in an earlier you still want to give away free health care and send them home. the problem with that is they are still getting free health care. the problem still exists and it will be abused when they tell all their buddies about it.
You asked why I was angry and I gave a response, I didn't say you said any of those things. I simply placed you in the liberal category that you like to be in. if you take that as spouting bullshit, then so be it. You still want to give away my tax dollars and my insurance premiums and I have a problem with that.