Quote Originally Posted by esaabye View Post
So let me understand, You do not have a problem with a ‘legal entity’ but just against those who would ‘bribe’ . That works just fine while you are the one judging the difference between the two.
I'm not deciding the difference between anything. If a 'legal entity' or an individual tries to influence a govt official with money or gifts, it's a bribe. It doesn't matter that we've institutionalized it and called it lobbying, it's still a bribe. If you see no problems with groups or individuals 'donating' millions of dollars to politicians in order to influence govt, then we really have nothing to discuss. We'll just agree to disagree.
Quote Originally Posted by esaabye View Post
How many cheap goods did you buy? Why, you know better, you should have paid a local union shop for that loaf of bread or that tv.

Nice attempt at trying to simplify a very complicated issue. Maybe I'll cede the high ground to you if you can honestly claim you have zero foreign goods in your household. I try to buy American goods when I can, and when it makes financial sense. That's probably why I like AR's so much. At least those are still made here.
Quote Originally Posted by esaabye View Post
Did you buy your energy from the local options or did you pay market rate and get what was available?

I don't see how that even has any bearing here but I'll answer anyways. I live in the metro area. I get my energy from xcel just like the vast majority. It's not like I really have a choice. As far as I know that electricity is produced domestically.

You use solar panels made in the USA? You distill your own ethanol? Only burn wood from American trees to heat your home? Good for you.
Quote Originally Posted by esaabye View Post
Not happy the job got offshored, did you call all the reps 10 years ago and complain about the HB1 numbers?
And I'm sure you did. How'd that work out for ya? I can guess not so good considering how many bribes, sorry I mean contributions, Microsoft, Oracle, Cisco, etc gave to your representatives and senators. Last I looked around my office there were plenty of Hindus doing jobs my unemployed friends were far more qualified to do. But hey, at least those 'legal entities' had their voices heard. My unemployed friends' voices and votes, not so much.
Quote Originally Posted by esaabye View Post
We are all created equal, then we must find our own ways. Look how far we have come from the original issue.

We try to justify reduction of rights of a small group who we think is not us.

If it is not us now it will be soon.
Again, last time I looked non-human 'legal entities' weren't citizens. They don't have any rights to get reduced.

I think some people support this because it means their favorite group, corp, social club, etc can now bribe govt in new and exciting ways (or in old ways that we're outlawed for a while). Hurray! And what's the harm so long as the bribes come from 'the good people'? Right?

Be careful, you may find 'good' getting re-defined when the other side can out bribe you.