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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post

    Look for an implementation of a "filing fee" or something similar that isn't a "tax"- ask Colorado DMV how to do that one.
    Also, the tax on the remaining items will jump, probably about 10x, to cover the missing revenue.
    You mean this nonsense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiememphis View Post
    Here is what I found online-

    $200 excise‑style NFA tax dropped to $0 for specific items:
    Suppressors (silencers)
    Short‑barreled rifles (SBRs)
    Short‑barreled shotguns (SBSs)
    Any Other Weapons (AOWs)
    Machine guns and destructive devices remain taxed at $200

    NFA regulation remains intact:
    Registration (Forms 1 & 4)
    Fingerprints
    Background checks
    ATF oversight

    So while the tax is gone, the regulatory and time barriers are not.

    Look for an implementation of a "filing fee" or something similar that isn't a "tax"- ask Colorado DMV how to do that one.
    Also, the tax on the remaining items will jump, probably about 10x, to cover the missing revenue.

    Of course the usual suspects- Brady, Anytown, Giffords- will all be filing lawsuits in blue states to get a friendly judge.

    Another thing- look for the same legislation to be proposed in Democrat majority states, written by Everytown lawyers, to end the nightmare of "Silent Deaths".

    Watch for state-level tax, mental health screening, waiting periods, registries and outright bans.

    Guaranteed that dumb fucker Tom Sullivan will try to push one through next session.
    No, just no.
    While the STATE of Colorado can and will continue with it's anti-gun agenda........... they have nothing to do with a FEDERAL tax that was removed.
    It's the FEDERAL Govt which oversaw, managed and collected it thru the ATF. Thats why it was in a FEDERAL level bill/law.
    So no States are missing revenue, it's the ATF and Federal Govt.
    And we already have several State taxes on it---- to include the 6.5 Sin tax applies to all those already and isn't affected by this.

    These reactions are reminiscent of that debacle that was the "Brace ban amnesty" or whatever it was called.
    People lost their minds claiming it was a trap, that they'd reverse the decision (again) and seize the guns, they weren't "real" form 1's etc etc
    And in the end what happened? Nothing. Some people got free forms approved.

    No dont trust any Democrat to respect our Rights but this is a big-bag-of-nothin.
    Partially because as you point out, the registration etc remains............ it's just free.
    Last edited by Oscar77; 07-05-2025 at 12:14.

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    Actually...... here we go:

    https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/...uit/5-2802968/

    It's the GOA filing a lawsuit, not the Dems.
    If I'm reading it right, they essentially are trying to force it into it's orginal form.

    I know some here really dont want that to happen........... so maybe you should start a petition against the GOA.

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    Tell you what:
    On Thursday I purchased my 5TH can.

    Why didn't you wait, you may ask?

    Well, here's the different scenarios:
    1) As soon as the new rules come into effect, a lot of people are going to buy, potentially drying out the supply for a few months. Nobody had what I wanted in stock, Gunbroker had one for $160 cheaper than SS.

    2) ATF will be swamped with applications, chances are it will go back to the 13 months wait I had to endure for my first can (my last one was 21 hrs).

    3) Lawsuit manages to get the removal from NFA back on the books. We are now in uncharted territory, here in CO. It may get dicey. They may ban them all together. Then we will sue. Then they countersue. You know this movie, we all saw it before.

    All of this to save me $200 (how much does it cost to take the family to McDonalds these days? ).
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    Doesn’t this change January 1, 2026? If so then the $200 tax is still in effect until then, no need to do anything now unless we just have to have something now lol. My last item only took 6 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc45 View Post
    Doesn?t this change January 1, 2026? If so then the $200 tax is still in effect until then, no need to do anything now unless we just have to have something now lol. My last item only took 6 days.
    You were right. I was wrong.
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    Surprised no one else covered this yet.

    With the passage of the "Big Beautiful Bill" and the elimination of the $200 tax stamp fee, it looks like the NRA and a couple of other pro-2A groups have filed a lawsuit against the ATF regarding the continuance of the NFA program. If they eliminate NFA, won't this then make things currently classified as "NFA items" illegal in CO and many other states?

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2025...ce-nfa-lawsuit
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    Thanks kidicarus13. Oh crap, didn’t realize that potential fallout regarding the lawsuit. A no win situation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc45 View Post
    Doesn?t this change January 1, 2026? If so then the $200 tax is still in effect until then, no need to do anything now unless we just have to have something now lol. My last item only took 6 days.
    6 days? That?s insanely quick. Electronic form 4?


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    Quote Originally Posted by whitewalrus View Post
    6 days? That?s insanely quick. Electronic form 4?
    That's the higher end of the norm now. There has been a consistent 24-72 hour turn around as of late. With electronic Form 1 and Form 4.
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