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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    I did a little research on these as I'm not really familiar with them. I do know IWI makes good products (the Tavor is an example).

    It looks like a good firearm to me but know you'll need to get some sort of sights or optic for it to use it as the models the IWI site showed didn't come with any sighting system.

    Unless you want to go the route of a Form 4 for additional cost and wait time, you'll want to get the 16" or 18" version of that carbine/rifle. Anything shorter than 16" for a carbine/rifle is considered an SBR (Short Barreled Rifle) and requires an ATF Tax Stamp. The 1 exception is the 12.5" pistol version that has a "brace" vs a "stock". Currently the braces are once again legal, but ATF has been trying to get them banned since before the first Trump presidency. Know that if you "shoulder" a brace (like you would a stock), law enforcement can claim you're using it as a rifle and give you grief (possible arrest).

    Do you know anything about the ALG El Jefe? I’m between it the IWI Zion 15 and an Aero Precision M4E1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty5280 View Post
    Do you know anything about the ALG El Jefe? I’m between it the IWI Zion 15 and an Aero Precision M4E1
    I don't know anything about the ALG products at all.

    My dad is very fond of Aero Precision products and he hasn't has any issues running any of his.



    A clarification: Any barrel length under 16" will need to be one of the following:
    (1) A pistol build AR. This means it can NOT have a stock on it (currently, a "brace" is legal, but that may change again).
    (2) A Form 4/tax stamp for an SBR (Short Barrelled Rifle).
    (3) A Flash Hider (FH) permanently pinned or welded to bring the total length of the barrel assembly to 16".

    So, if you decide to go with the Aero 13.9" barrelled upper, you're just looking at more hassle and possibly questions down the road.
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