Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
I say could be because there are some areas where spending does need to happen but it's not extending Obamacare subsidies for illegal aliens.
The Left's Hakeem Jeffey (I know, I did it on purpose) stated in a CNN interview (ran across it on Social Media) that the "subsidies for illegal aliens" is a lie. But, even the CNN interviewer pointed out that the large Medicaid subsidies to hospitals is quite often used to pay for illegals getting treatment. Now I'm not saying someone shouldn't get real emergency care when needed, but how much of the care provided is truly emergency in nature (vs acute)? And emergent, acute, or other - if the oatient is here illegally, they need to be removed immediately following whatever lifesaving care is required (life, limb or eye-sight).

I know that the subsidies can & do help some people who truly need it, but several years back, my son was working full-time for a fence/wall install company. He was earning less, hourly, than most burger flippers earned (as I recall it was somewhere between $16-20k/yr). He also received NO healthcare benefits. I helped him sign up for healthcare on the Exchange and found really shitty coverage, with a really shitty co-pay and deductible. For the honor of this coverage, *I* (because he couldn't afford it) had to pay ~$250//mo. The name of the law has been a lie for most Americans from the very beginning (it didn't make healthcare affordable for most Americans). Maybe it wasn't actually supposed to. Maybe it was meant to make more .med/pharma/insurance/politicians richer.

Even if we block all non-citizens from receiving any assistance, the average American, subsidy or not, is going to be screwed.


ETA:

Quote Originally Posted by Oscar77 View Post
And like alot of things they doing now, their stupidity is only harming them.

Poll and after poll show people realize the Dems are responsible for this.

Yes, and no (bolded part). The Left has increasingly gone so far off of the rails that a lot of folks are waking up. Traditionally, "Independents" by-and-large tended to support the Left. They're starting to see just how out of touch the Left has become and are moving Right quickly. Many non-radical traditional Liberals are also seeing how bad the Left has become and are leaving the Democratic party. BUT, not nearly enough. The Left still has a huge following. Some are the radicalized and some are just the dyed-in-the-wool Democrats who would stand behind the party regardless of what they say/do. This is apparent to me as I continue to see headlines indicating a Democrat is leading the race in an election (of course, the media claimed this about Biden, then Harris, and we saw how untrue that was), but they're also still WINNING a lot of elections. I just hope that in the next major election cycle enough folks see how bad the Left has harmed us and they don't regain power over Congress or the POTUS.