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    If it was similar to teachers and I only had to pay it one time I would be for it. It would be worth the $10.50 to never have to wait for CBI again.

    Of course Ritter could have saved the state some money by signing the bill that would allow CCW holders to not need a background check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenScoutII View Post
    Times are tough enough already, how much more do they think they can squeeze us????
    While I agree that this tax is stupid as there already is a fee for background checks, the argument used here is just stupid.

    If time are tough you probably should not be buying guns. If you can afford to buy a $500 Glock, $1000 AR-15, or $500 shotgun you can AFFORD to pay this $10.50 tax.

    Like I said the tax is a stupid idea, just don't make it about affordability.

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    Yet another reason why I am a former Democrat. BTW did anyone see Glenn Beck's special on Friday? Eye opening...

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    jerrymc is absolutely correct. These folks want to take EVERYTHING from us so that we'll HAVE to rely on them for every day-to-day need and they can take care of us the way they think we should be taken care of. Of course, that means thy'll get to decide waht we can do and how we can do it.

    We already pay a minimum of $0.40 of tax for every dollar we earn. If the .gov would learn to quit with the BS programs and creating hundreds of un-needed offices, they'd have enough $ already. It's sort of like if I hired a maid to clean my house. I can't afford it, but, hey, why not - I'll just live beyond my means and staqrt charging my employer more $$ for it.
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    If these dumb ass's would make it like Nevada where you dont have to do a background check everytime if you have a ccw like they tried to do, that would help. BUT WE SHOULDNT HAVE TO APPLY FOR OUR RIGHTS ANYWAYS.

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    Don't firearms owners have the option to pay for a one time background check? It's called CCW permit.

    How often do teachers have to pay for their background checks?

    Looks like another "sin" tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birddog1911 View Post
    Maybe if those assholes in Denver would stop spending like drunken sailors this sort of thing wouldn't be necessary!
    this made me LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by cebeu View Post
    A more appropriate headline:

    The Denver Post Editorial staff goes off half-assed
    But that wouldn't be news ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmailliard View Post
    While I agree that this tax is stupid as there already is a fee for background checks, the argument used here is just stupid.

    If time are tough you probably should not be buying guns. If you can afford to buy a $500 Glock, $1000 AR-15, or $500 shotgun you can AFFORD to pay this $10.50 tax.

    Like I said the tax is a stupid idea, just don't make it about affordability.

    Oh, my argument is stupid is it? Perhaps you missed my point...

    In tough economic conditions, additional fees, taxes, and surcharges will only exacerbate a consumer's reluctance to buy the items these fees are levied on..

    Granted, an additional $10.50 on a $1000 dollar AR is just a drop in the bucket, but we already pay sales tax PLUS the existing fee for the background check. Enough is enough. Obviously, the gov is trying to tax us into prosperity. I think we all know how well that works.

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    So if the state supposedly absorbs the cost of the background check, why the hell am I paying a $30+ fee every time I buy a firearm, not to mention sales tax and excise tax? Bullshit. These bureaucrats never have enough. If the cost is so expensive, do away with the background check. I highly doubt it ever stopped a 'bad guy' from getting his hands on a gun. Problem solved on multiple fronts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmailliard View Post
    While I agree that this tax is stupid as there already is a fee for background checks, the argument used here is just stupid.

    If time are tough you probably should not be buying guns. If you can afford to buy a $500 Glock, $1000 AR-15, or $500 shotgun you can AFFORD to pay this $10.50 tax.

    Like I said the tax is a stupid idea, just don't make it about affordability.
    When you add up all of the extra crap Ritter has saddled us with, like the extra fees we pay with our vehicle registrations, it quickly becomes about affordability. It doesn't take very long to become expensive when you start adding it up.
    Everyone needs their vehicles, so whether we like it or not we pay his damn fee. With this one, the only people who care are those of us who get hit with it even though many pay for the checks already, even though the folks who wanted the whole checks system are the same ones who want us to pay for it now. As soon as they get us paying the $10.50, they'll find some reason to jack it up, as much and often as they can. It can easily be turned into a way to regulate gun purchases, much the way they did with the machine gun tax when it was enacted ($200 was a LOT then).
    So they want us to pay for the checks that they made mandatory. Why do we not hear about prosecutions of people who are caught trying to illegally buy guns? Has anyone heard of how many legitimate purchase denials there are in a month? A year? How many of those are prosecuted? How many are convicted? They just committed a felony, yet we hear NOTHING. Could it be that the results of this system that they now want US to pay for are IGNORED because the real reason for its existence was to put yet another chink in legitimate gun ownership? Or could it be that the system doesn't produce results? Because I don't know about you guys, but I can count on one hand the number of prosecutions I've heard about from this system. And frankly, it pisses me the hell off that apparently this sort of felony is ignored while the ATF spends time and effort going after legitimate dealers and harassing them. Why aren't the Brady bunch and all of their ilk crowing about the number of prosecutions from people caught trying to illegally buy guns? They talk about how many purchases are prevented, but never about how many are ultimately reversed on appeal (big surprise there, eh?) or how many people are convicted based on their attempt to purchase illegally. And with the 4473, THEY HAVE PROOF ON PAPER! It would appear to me that, much like the pigs in Orwell's Animal Farm, some Felonies are more equal than others.

    (Sorry, wasn't trying to hijack the thread. Just makes me mad!)
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