Ok Gotcha. Yeah, I understand about not wanting to build a machine yourself. I only build machines for my own use anymore, because it's time consuming PITA. I do it for myself just because that's about how much I enjoy working on them. I do have a half dozen computers around the house at any given time, so that's plenty. And I'd never really recommend buying used.

I don't have any great recommendations on a prebuilt machine, honestly... it's much harder to compare apples to apples in that situation, since it's uncommon any two machines will have identical spec.

Actually Newegg does sell full desktops... I've been happy with both ASUS and Acer in the past. I had to call ASUS support, they're in Indiana and open late, which was nice. http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCateg...me=Desktop-PCs

Interestingly, they do offer some combos:

http://www.newegg.com/Store/MasterCo...=DIY-PC-Combos

Here's an example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.311875

Essentially you get that batch of parts from them and assemble it yourself. Hopefully this helps!

H.