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  • Not Cambered with Safety On

    4 1.76%
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    23 10.13%
  • Chambered with Safety On

    111 48.90%
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    89 39.21%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    If I recall, it's illegal to have a chambered weapon in your car, CCW or not. Loaded is OK, but chambered is not, so I've always kept mine un-chambered (and have no safety). If I had a safety on my P3AT I might keep one chambered but the possible legality makes me hesitant to say I would for certain. One exception to the rule is that I would chamber one if I was in a seedy area or thought my likelihood for reaching for my weapon would be increased.

    Like it or lump it, the CCW is a privilege and I don't want to risk losing that for any reason. Besides, I think that CCW carries with it a sense that the carrier is a safer gun owner, I wouldn't want to make headlines about how the moron CCW carrier accidentally discharges his chambered weapon .
    You can carry in your car openly or concealed, loaded and chambered, without a permit, in any part of the state where not prohibited by state or federal law:


    18-12-105.6. Limitation on local ordinances regarding firearms in private vehicles.










    (1) The general assembly hereby finds that:








    (a) A person carrying a weapon in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance for hunting or for lawful protection of such person's or another's person or property, as permitted in sections 18-12-105 (2) (b) and 18-12-105.5 (3) (c), may tend to travel within a county, city and county, or municipal jurisdiction or in or through different county, city and county, and municipal jurisdictions, en route to the person's destination;








    (b) Inconsistent laws exist in local jurisdictions with regard to the circumstances under which weapons may be carried in automobiles and other private means of conveyance;








    (c) This inconsistency creates a confusing patchwork of laws that unfairly subjects a person who lawfully travels with a weapon to criminal penalties because he or she travels within a jurisdiction or into or through another jurisdiction;








    (d) This inconsistency places citizens in the position of not knowing when they may be violating local laws while traveling within a jurisdiction or in, through, or between different jurisdictions, and therefore being unable to avoid committing a crime.








    (2) (a) Based on the findings specified in subsection (1) of this section, the general assembly concludes that the carrying of weapons in private automobiles or other private means of conveyance for hunting or for lawful protection of a person's or another's person or property while traveling into, through, or within, a municipal, county, or city and county jurisdiction, regardless of the number of times the person stops in a jurisdiction, is a matter of statewide concern and is not an offense.








    (b) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, no municipality, county, or city and county shall have the authority to enact or enforce any ordinance or resolution that would restrict a person's ability to travel with a weapon in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance for hunting or for lawful protection of a person's or another's person or property while traveling into, through, or within, a municipal, county, or city and county jurisdiction, regardless of the number of times the person stops in a jurisdiction.






    None of which means anything if the cop that pulls you over does not know the law(and many of them do not). With a permit, you are covered pretty much anywhere not specifically restricted by law. CCW is a RIGHT, not a privilege, as affirmed by CRS 18-12-206 . CRS 18-12-204 (3) (a) specifically gives you the right to carry without a permit as long as "The handgun is in the possession of a person who is in a private automobile or in some other private means of conveyance and who carries the handgun for a legal use, including self-defense".

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    I stand corrected! I knew there was SOME law about a chambered weapon, I didn't realize it was only rifles.

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    I don't have a safety, I think I would be afraid I'd end up with a premature gun-jaculation!

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    Walther P99- no safety
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    I feel very confident in my ability to access and carry my weapon in such a way as to avoid an ND or AD. I have never tried but I wonder what it would take to get a SIG229 to AD - a drop on a hard tile floor I highly doubt would do it. Granted my military experience with pistols was with the Beretta M9 and not a SIG. Anyone out there care to shed some light on their experience with this - not anecdotally please... Just first hand experience.

    My thoughts are, as stated before, that I want the least amount of motion necessary to put a round (or rounds) on target. My combat experiences taught me that you have to maintain some semblance of safety but I am in the camp with a bunch here that my finger is safety enough. One of the few good things about relying on your weapons 100% of the time (in combat) to stay alive is to have gained a sincere appreciation and respect for them that you don't get being back in society.
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    I've dropped my M&P 40c with a round chambered, many times. I've also dropped my full size CZ 75B down some stairs while cocked and locked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    I've dropped my M&P 40c with a round chambered, many times. I've also dropped my full size CZ 75B down some stairs while cocked and locked.
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    I am really surpised and concerned with all the CCWers who dont have a round chambered and safety on.
    I hope if there is ever a time you guys actually need to use your CCW that you heva time to chamber a round etc.

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    Does anyone have any thoughts of carrying a locked-and-loaded glock in an SOB holster? I think the lack of safety and the position of carry might present a liability, but I would like to hear other opinions.

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