The best all around three gun battery

[ldmaster]

I hear you on the weight issue. I was reading something last night and in it a fictional character pointed something out about rich vs poor men.

He said that a typical working class guy might have three pairs of shoes. His best pair of shoes/boots (the most comfortable) he didn't wear unless he had to walk somewhere - where the comfort made the difference. He would wear his 3rd best pair to work, where they might get dirty or damaged, but not do a significant amount of walking and reserve his 2nd best pair for social occasions.

A rich man will have a dozen pairs of boots, and he will squander his most comfortable pair on mundane things. A poor man has to choose his boots with care and forethought.

Sorta like 3 guns.

[flan7211]

Idmaster I'm agreeing with a lot of what your saying.

I have two main plans, my survival co-op has stay put plans, but honestly I know of three areas in the hills of south dakota or wyoming I'd rather be. With structures, good access to water, and far from civilization. I'll tell you what staying in a populated area would be a near death sentence for most people. The raiding would be intense, if government couldn't keep order than most folks would do what had to be done for their family.

My guns-

1.M1a Socom 16, always has treated me right. With iron sights i can hit my targets 400m or more if need be. I'll throw an eotech on there if in a cqc scenario. With steel core ammo you can punch through most body armor. The other factor, with proper placement shoots there is nothing you can't take down in North America. Though you shouldn't have to hunt, if you did you could get the job done.

2. PPS-43
Honestly my Remington 700 VTR .308 is a beast and with a scope I can knock down some asshole pretty far away, it is too damn heavy to be carrying. My group of guys has two ex-snipers who are a lot better than me. Therefore the gun I want is a PPS-43, 7.62 Tokarev is an amazing little round. No thanks on a .22, first rimfires are not as reliable as a good centerfire. Tok, is cheap, and you can easily stock pile it. The PPS is very reliable, fires from an open bolt, and has a floating firing pin. When I'm not poor and out of work I'm getting one.

3.Third is my early 80's Sig 229, I have both the .357 SIG and the .40 Barrel, two great rounds. But honestly by the time you have to use a pistol your screwed. My M1a is also going to be tied to my left testicle.

[michael_aos]

I pop in here every so often and just hit the "New posts" link.

I didn't initially notice this was in the Survival / Preparedness forum. I assumed it was about the game of 3-Gun / multigun.

Actually though, there may be some cross-over. For the game, I would say:

STI Tactical
Benelli M2 Field
JP AR

[Eldorado556]

I always thought something like a Baikal IZH-94 Sever 22lr/20ga. would be nice. It will keep meat on the table and leave you with two more guns to bring along.

[jmg8550]

These I actually have,

M1A
Rem 870 Wingmaster with shortened barrel
1911 pistol

For my Fiance,

AR15
Stoeger O/U 12 Guage
Sig Sauer P225 9mm

[Beprepared]

I hear you on the weight issue. I was reading something last night and in it a fictional character pointed something out about rich vs poor men.

He said that a typical working class guy might have three pairs of shoes. His best pair of shoes/boots (the most comfortable) he didn't wear unless he had to walk somewhere - where the comfort made the difference. He would wear his 3rd best pair to work, where they might get dirty or damaged, but not do a significant amount of walking and reserve his 2nd best pair for social occasions.

A rich man will have a dozen pairs of boots, and he will squander his most comfortable pair on mundane things. A poor man has to choose his boots with care and forethought.

Sorta like 3 guns.

Took me a minute. Wheel of Time... that last one was a damn good book.

[Irving]

Took me a minute. Wheel of Time... that last one was a damn good book.

I'm not going to derail this thread, but I wanted to let you know that Brandon Sanderson has been commissioned to finish out the series. Sanderson's other work should be checked out.

Carry on dudes.

[jreifsch80]

This is a very interesting thread. Lots of varried responses I gotta admit when I first read some posts talking about taking a couple hundred rounds of different types of shotgun ammo and rifle ammo and pistol ammo I think wow some guys here must either be very very strong if they also plan on carrying supplies or have very very big gas tanks not bashing anyone as we all have different plans and needs here's my idea

If I have transportation
1 my 8x57 m76 its an ak based rifle mine is very accurate and 8mm mauser will drop anything with 4 legs or two and I have plenty of ammo for it (also despite what you all may think ammo is pretty easy to find if need be)

2 my 870 wingmaster

3 my cz-52 with 3 or 4 70 round boxes of surp 7.62x25 for it also a 9mm conversion barrel in case I scavenge some


If I'm on foot

1 underfolder akm, light weight hardy can hide in a pack and while people say it can be cleaned with spit and a boot lace my buddy that is a former ukrainian spetznaz said they were taught if need be to clean it by pissing down the barrel and running a boot lace through it haha

2 single shot break open 12 gauge, breaks into 2 pieces fits in a pack and is light, for ammo I'd have about 50 full brass hulls a couple pounds of black powder and a couple pounds of shot a slug mold (just in case) and elmers glue for my top wad, if the top wad is glued instead of crimped in place they can practicly be reloaded forever oh and plenty of primers too

3 same pistol as before the ammo is light

And in my dreams where weight and ammo are not problem (or full on fall of western civ as we know it shtf)

1 mg-42 with at least 4 cases of ammo and a dozen barrels haha

2 saiga 12k with about 20 8 round mags and about 10 drums

3 for my pistol hehe... An aks-74u with about 30 mags and a couple cases of ammo (oh and a hand drill and a few "extra" parts haha)

But realisticly though it's tempting to have like 20 mags per firearm in my bug out bag I find it more practicle to have more like 4 or 5 for my ak variant I'd choose to take as well as a stripper clip guide and my extra ammo on stripper clips though I can see carring zillions of pistol mags as they're light and compact

And don't forget black powder and full brass hulls guys bp lasts forever practicly and with brass hulls reloading them would only require a. Punch for pushing out the spent primer, a stick for compressing the load and elmers glue for securing the top wad heck you could probably use candle wax (might be dangerous haha) or even tree sap to secure the top wad. Also with bp loads the measuring is simple too

Anyway I don't mean to ramble but I did haha

[mcantar18c]

Gun 1: Colt SAA in .45LC with a 7.5" barrel. I'm more accurate with single actions than any other handgun I've shot with. They're durable as hell, no recoil springs or anything to wear down, simple = less chit to break.

Gun 2: Taurus Circuit Judge with a 4x32 optic. Will shoot .45LC and both 2.5" and 3" .410 shells out of an 18.5" barrel. .45LC to hunt 4 and 2 leg creatures, .410 for winged ones and for personal defense. Commonality of .45LC is an obvious benefit, and I can fit more .410 on me than I can 12ga.

Don't need a Gun 3, I already have a shotgun, handgun, and a rifle.... I can put that saved space and weight to better use.

[gcrookston]

HK 93 quickly convertible from precision rifle to battle rifle to assault rifle
HK/Benelli M1S90
HK USPT .45