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    Default The problem is too many guns & the NRA

    This is from the "leading intellectual light" on Islamic issues (NY Times) and one of the "500 Most Influential Muslims" in the country (according to John Esposito), Imam Zaid Shakir.
    There is not a Muslim problem. Especially based on the number of Muslims who have done this particular act. It’s not a Korean problem because the kid in Virginia tech was a Korean American. It’s not a white American problem because the kids in Columbine or several other places were white Americans. That’s not the common denominator, race is not the common denominator, religion is not the common denominator, gender–maybe, I would say they should just chill out. What is the common denominator. The common denominator is easy access to guns. The common denominator is that there are more guns in America than there are human beings. There are more guns in America than human beings, and they are easily had. And if someone tries to limit their accessibility, they’re going to be challenged by the NRA, the National Rifle Association–one of the most powerful lobbies in this country. That’s the common denominator. So if we are serious as a society about stopping this violence, it doesn’t behoove us to demonize Muslims. We’re here to talk about Muslims, I’m not trying to dodge that, but if behooves us to make it far, far, far more difficult for people to get their hands on a gun. And if we’re not willing to do that, it’s easy to go blame the Muslims. That’s easy and that’s why so many people do–it’s a national sport. Vilify the Muslims, they’re weak, they can’t fight back
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    Yeah...radical Islamist beliefs had nothing to do with the Ft Hood shootings.
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    The idea of guns being the root of violence doesn't strike me as being a particularly Islamist belief. If you took a list of the top 500 most influential Christians in this country, I guarantee you'd read shit along those lines that would make your blood boil.
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    I didn't think that the Muslims who hijacked planes on 9/11 used guns? And what about the lawyers who fight for Muslim citizens' rights after an attack, or after they are wrongfully charged, should we do away with them too?
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    It continually amazes me that anyone can acknowledge that there are more than 300,000,000 firearms in the US and then immediately turn around and say that we should make it harder to get them. Do they believe 300,000,001 is exactly 1 too many? Of course not. But once there are draconian regulations on the acquisition, it starts getting easier and easier to start taking them away.

    I have to refrain from making any comments about the Islamish-ness of this mentality since quite a few of my toys went through a FFL that is a practicing Muslim.
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    There are Too Many guns and not enough people.

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    It should be just like in the middle east...one fully automatic Kalashnikov per household...

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    We wouldn't need all these guns if it weren't for all the radical Islamists right? So get rid of more radical islamists, for every 5,000 you get rid of, I'll get rid of 1 of my guns.


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    The common denominator is gun free zones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newracer View Post
    The common denominator is gun free zones.
    Best, most relevant post in the whole thread. Thanks.
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    Swiss familys have their military rifles in teh house. Every house has a rifle. Very low crime in Switz.

    If guns are killing people, then spoons made Rosie O'Donell fat, and pencils mis-spell words.

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