Hickenlooper to Gunowners: "I will take your guns"

[cowboykjohnson]

There are a few mayoral groups that Hickenlooper can join in lieu of Mayors Against Illegal Guns. They are:

Mayors Against
- Illegal Drunk Driving
- Illegal Murder
- Illegal Felonies (I hear this group will have a "Crime of the Month")
- Illegal Illegalities (parent group of "Illegal Felonies", but covers misdemeanors, etc also)

Moviestar, I as well applaud you for taking the time to read through the entire PDF in order to keep yourself informed. I would encourage you to read it again, taking the time to read between the lines (sometimes this is more important than what is in the black and white print).

I want that sign!

[sniper7]

that is an awesome sign!

[saddleup]

I sent him a letter last August regarding this - never even received a response.
My letter:
Mayor Hickenlooper,
I urge you to resign from the Mayors Against Illegal Guns coalition, (MAIG). I believe you need to reassess your membership and support of the MAIG because the organization has more than illegal guns in mind. I believe that the group is also against legal and lawful ownership of firearms. This is evident in their continuous mischaracterization of facts and outright falsehoods as stated by Mayor Bloomberg and other members.

From Mayor Bloomberg:
“The gun laws of one state affect the people of all the other states."
The mayors said they hope to stanch the flow of guns from states that have less-stringent laws by pressing for tougher gun-control measures nationwide...
A MAIG advertisement in PA:
The “Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act” (S. 845) would require Pennsylvania to honor concealed carry permits granted by other states, even when those permit holders could not meet the standards required by Pennsylvania law. This would strip Pennsylvanians of the power to create their own public safety laws, and hand that power to the states with the weakest protections.
The last thing we need in Pennsylvania is to have Congress gut our laws and endanger our police officers by allowing alcohol abusers and people convicted of impersonating a police officer to carry concealed guns in our communities.”

This is a lie.
The concealed carry reciprocity act does not allow this. Individual states have very stringent rules for permits. I challenge anyone to show me where, as MAIG states, “alcohol abusers and people convicted of impersonating a police officer” were allowed to acquire or keep a concealed carry permit.

Concealed carry permit holders are by nature, law-abiding citizens and the incident rate is far lees that the general population, estimates are in the hundredths of one percent for violent acts perpetrated by permit holders.

Bloomberg sponsors violation of Virginia law:
A few years back, Bloomberg hired private investigators to break the law in Virginia. In 2007, following a series of Bloomberg-sponsored undercover “sting” operations at gun shops in states including Virginia, Virginia passed a law prohibiting the Bloomberg practice of sending out civilian investigators who deliberately attempted to simulate straw purchases.

Regarding the Virginia Tech tragedy, Bloomberg stated:
“Lost family members would be alive if Virginia closed the so-called “gun show loophole.””
There are at least two major lies in that statement:
1) Murderer Seung-Hui Cho bought his guns legally at a regular firearms store and passed the government-mandated background check because mental health folks failed to report him. Then-Attorney General Bob McDonnell worked quickly to resolve that issue. Gun shows had nothing to do with Virginia Tech.
2) There is no “gun show loophole”. Dealers at gun shows must conduct all the background checks at gun shows that they do back at the store.
From the MAIG website:
“We respect the rights of law abiding citizens to own guns, and we recognize that the vast majority of gun dealers carefully follow the law. Our only interest is in fighting crime -- and we are determined to win. The polarizing rhetoric of gun politics on all sides only obscures the tragic reality we see every day on our streets: violent criminals with easy access to firearms.”

This is NOT their true agenda.
They want stricter gun laws in ALL 50 states.
The MAIG group is a virtual who’s who of anti-gun civil servants.
Civil servants… no, they are trying to push their personal agenda regardless of the safety of their constituents.
Again, I urge you to resign from this anti-gun group, as I firmly believe it is not consistent with your constituent’s rights and beliefs.

Thank you,
XXXXXXXXXXX

I urge every citizen of Denver to send him a letter similar to this...

This is why we need to put pressure on Hickenlooper. We NEED to know where he stands on guns in this state. Otherwise, we are in big trouble.

[Birddog1911]

This is why we need to put pressure on Hickenlooper. We NEED to know where he stands on guns in this state. Otherwise, we are in big trouble.

The SOB will just lie, like every one of those bastards.

[funkfool]

This seemed like the most appropriate thread for this:
(Although the proposal is from Aug 09 - the tactic to get these changes put in place is morphing somewhat.)

Bloomberg is at it again
Dear friend,
Liberals in places like New York, Boston and Washington D.C. are riding high on the passage of President Obama's health care reform bill. Emboldened by their backdoor success, liberal leaders are already setting their sights on the next round of political priorities.
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and his anti-gun front group Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG) have sent the White House and Congressional leaders a 40-point report outlining the anti-gun measures they would like make into law.
You might be saying to yourself, "We've heard this song before, right?" Wrong.
The anti-gun elitist have changed their tactics. Instead of trying to pass legislation through Congress, they want these changes made by regulation and executive order.
Michael Bloomberg and his anti-gun stooges want to bypass the elected representatives of the people and allow unelected bureaucrats in the Obama Administration to violate your Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.
Bloomberg's plan includes the creation of a Federal task force of over seven different agencies from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to the Consumer Product Safety Commission and the White House Office of Budget and Management.
Elements of the proposal, which is titled "A blueprint for Federal Action on illegal guns", includes a laundry list of anti-gun measures.

Just some of the proposed changes in regulation include:
Bans on the importation of "non-sporting use" firearms
Restructuring and expanding the authority of the radically anti-gun and out-of-control BATFE
Mandatory federal "lock-up your safety" regulations
Surprise "residency" checks on buyers who purchase multiple guns
REAL ID and biometric validation of firearms purchaser information
Increasing paperwork and hurdles for gun dealers to jump through

Simply put, the anti-gun lobby is trying to push its unconstitutional wish list through the federal bureaucracy and away from the eyes of voters across the country.
Rest assured, the National Association for Gun Rights will do everything in its power to expose this outrageous, backdoor attempt to force gun control upon the American people.
You can read the full text of the Mayors Against Illegal Guns proposal, here.
If you think this is outrageous as I do, drop by the National Association for Gun Rights blog, and join the conversation.
Keep fighting,
Dudley Brown
Executive Director
National Association for Gun Rights

[funkfool]

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Fe...?id=5765&issue

Another Bloomberg-MAIG Lie About Gun Shows
Friday, April 23, 2010
This week, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's gun control advocacy group, Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG), began running television ads urging Congress to "close the gun show loophole." Page 34 of MAIG's Blueprint for Federal Action on guns says that the group supports H.R. 2324 and S. 843—bills that would require NICS checks on private sales of firearms at gun shows, and which also contain provisions designed to drive gun shows out of business.
MAIG's ads claim "The Columbine school massacre ... killers got their guns because of a gap in the law, called the 'gun show loophole.'" And in a related press release, MAIG claims "All four guns used in the Columbine shootings were bought from private sellers at gun shows."
The claims are lies, of course. For starters, one of the Columbine criminals' four firearms was not acquired at a gun show. More to the point, however, the other three firearms, while bought at a gun show, were bought for the criminals by a straw purchaser—a woman who was not prohibited from possessing or acquiring firearms, and who therefore would have passed a NICS check, if she had bought the firearms from a licensed dealer.
Furthermore, Bloomberg and MAIG are not telling the whole story about H.R. 2324 and S. 843. Both bills define "vendor" to include any gun show customer who brings a firearm to a show—even for the purpose of selling it to a dealer—or who doesn't bring a firearm, but who mentions to someone at a show that he might be interested in selling a firearm.
And, H.R. 2324 would impose a "vendor" requirement with which no one could comply. The bill would require show operators to notify the Attorney General, in writing, no later than 30 days in advance of the show, of the name of every "vendor." Of course, there is no way that a show promoter can know 30 days (or 30 seconds) in advance who is going to attend a show, or who might bring a firearm to sell, or who might have a conversation with someone about selling a firearm.
Both bills also seek to register gun owners. Because of how the bills define "vendor," a gun show promoter would be forced to have everyone who attends a show sign the ledger. And the bills require that the "vendor" ledgers be available to BATFE inspectors. Many Americans would refuse to sign a ledger just to walk around a show, which would reduce show attendance.
Both bills also would require registration of gun shows. S. 843 would additionally allow the Attorney General to charge an unspecified fee for registering a gun show. The power to set prohibitively expensive fees is the power to destroy, of course.
Both bills would also authorize the BATFE to conduct warrantless inspections of the required "vendor" (customer) ledger and all records of licensed firearm dealers while dealers are at shows to conduct business—a provision clearly designed to discourage dealers from participating in shows.
We've said it many times, but it bears repeating. Gun shows account for a very small percentage of criminals' guns. The largest study of the subject ever conducted by the federal government found that only 0.7 percent of prison inmates who had used guns, had obtained their guns from gun shows. Furthermore, firearm sales have increased over the last several years, the nation's murder rate fell to a 43-year low in 2008, and fell another 10 percent in the first half of 2009, according to the FBI.
And no one should be fooled into thinking that gun control supporters want NICS checks on private firearm sales only at gun shows. In December 2008, the Brady Campaign stated "We agree with the Obama transition agenda that the gun show loophole should be closed, and with Attorney General nominee Eric Holder that background checks should be required for all gun sales. Our national gun policy should be "no background check, no gun, no excuses." (Emphasis in the original.) Their goal is to run all sales through NICS and thereafter change the law so that the FBI would be permitted to retain records of all firearms sales indefinitely. A step in that direction has been introduced in Congress by S. 843 author Sen. Frank Lautenberg. His S. 2820 would allow the FBI to keep records of approved NICS transfers for 180 days.