Hickenlooper to Gunowners: "I will take your guns"

[Moviestar]

One of these threads AGAIN?

It says clearly in the PDF you posted, they are against illegal trafficking of guns between illegal gun owners. It has NOTHING to do with LEGAL gun owners, as well as the sale of privately owned firearms to ILLEGAL owners. They are called Mayors against illegal guns no mayors against legal guns.

Take your tin foil hats off, and read up on stuff before you post it and sound like an idiot. If you actually read it, its common sense. Of course you want to enforce harder laws on people selling to illegal gun owners, would you want to sell a gun to someone who has a criminal record and them have them use it in a crime?


It is honestly silly how bad the reading comprehension level is.

[Eow]

One of these threads AGAIN?

It says clearly in the PDF you posted, they are against illegal trafficking of guns between illegal gun owners. It has NOTHING to do with LEGAL gun owners, as well as the sale of privately owned firearms to ILLEGAL owners. They are called Mayors against illegal guns no mayors against legal guns.

Take your tin foil hats off, and read up on stuff before you post it and sound like an idiot. If you actually read it, its common sense. Of course you want to enforce harder laws on people selling to illegal gun owners, would you want to sell a gun to someone who has a criminal record and them have them use it in a crime?


It is honestly silly how bad the reading comprehension level is.

Wow, you actually believe that this organization is only out to protect Americans against illegal guns? I would never have believed that anyone on this forum was that naive. Think about it for even half a second: if your agenda is to prevent the common man from owning guns, are you more successful (a) telling people your real agenda, or (b) telling people you are only against illegal gun owners?

[rondog]

One of these threads AGAIN?

It says clearly in the PDF you posted, they are against illegal trafficking of guns between illegal gun owners. It has NOTHING to do with LEGAL gun owners, as well as the sale of privately owned firearms to ILLEGAL owners. They are called Mayors against illegal guns no mayors against legal guns.

Take your tin foil hats off, and read up on stuff before you post it and sound like an idiot. If you actually read it, its common sense. Of course you want to enforce harder laws on people selling to illegal gun owners, would you want to sell a gun to someone who has a criminal record and them have them use it in a crime?


It is honestly silly how bad the reading comprehension level is.

Was that KoolAid good?

[Moviestar]

Did any of you actually spend the time and read all 57 pages of that PDF? Seriously, take off the tin foil hats. Everytime someone mentions gun in politics people freak the fuck out. Not everyone is an evil, lying, flip flopping asshole. Its like a cockroach when you flip on the lights. According to you, anyone who isn't pro-gun is anti-gun, there is such a thing as the middle ground. Even people who say Obama is anti-gun is silly, he took the stand saying he was in favor of gun control, but recieved failing grades from the Brady Center on all positions gun control, he doesn't even favor the most anti-gun legislation of all...the AWB signed by Clinton. No one is going to try to take away our guns completely thats just an absurd thing to think about. Even california and new york still allow you to own firearms, and carry concealed. It is absolutely absurd to think that someone would actually try to take away our 2nd rights, which has been a part of our culture and heritage since the country has started.

Bitchtits.

[Ridge]

There is a reason all gun owners get concerned when politicians bring up gun control. They feel the only people that SHOULD have guns are the military, law enforcement, and their personal body guards. The rest of us shouldnt have so much as a break action .22, in their eyes...

The 1994 gun ban banned AR-15s, but not Ruger Mini-14s, despite firing the same round in the same manner. They banned guns based on LOOKS. NYC has banned guns that are painted. England has banned guns, bb guns and airsoft guns.

[Irving]

First of all, there is no middle ground when it comes to rights. None. "Shall not be infringed" means just that. To suggest that there is a middle ground, is to suggest that there can be some sort of concession on each side to meet in the "middle." "Concession" is synonymous with "infringe" in this context.

Second, I don't think you can get a CCW in New York unless you have political connections.

Third, don't you think it is a the slightest bit ridiculous that an entire organization needs to be created to be against illegal guns? I bet there isn't a Mayors Against Illegal Rape, or Mayors Against Illegal Kidnapping. Use your head.

[Eow]

First of all, there is no middle ground when it comes to rights. None. "Shall not be infringed" means just that. To suggest that there is a middle ground, is to suggest that there can be some sort of concession on each side to meet in the "middle." "Concession" is synonymous with "infringe" in this context.

Second, I don't think you can get a CCW in New York unless you have political connections.

Third, don't you think it is a the slightest bit ridiculous that an entire organization needs to be created to be against illegal guns? I bet there isn't a Mayors Against Illegal Rape, or Mayors Against Illegal Kidnapping. Use your head.

Amen Stuart, you are exactly right. Those who think 'it can't happen here' have not read their history. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.

[alan0269]

There is a reason all gun owners get concerned when politicians bring up gun control. They feel the only people that SHOULD have guns are the military, law enforcement, and their personal body guards. The rest of us shouldnt have so much as a break action .22, in their eyes...

The 1994 gun ban banned AR-15s, but not Ruger Mini-14s, despite firing the same round in the same manner. They banned guns based on LOOKS. NYC has banned guns that are painted. England has banned guns, bb guns and airsoft guns.

First of all, there is no middle ground when it comes to rights. None. "Shall not be infringed" means just that. To suggest that there is a middle ground, is to suggest that there can be some sort of concession on each side to meet in the "middle." "Concession" is synonymous with "infringe" in this context.

Second, I don't think you can get a CCW in New York unless you have political connections.

Third, don't you think it is a the slightest bit ridiculous that an entire organization needs to be created to be against illegal guns? I bet there isn't a Mayors Against Illegal Rape, or Mayors Against Illegal Kidnapping. Use your head.

You both have hit the nail on the head! They don't feel that the "common folk" should have guns, only the police, military, federal agents, personal body guards, and anyone "important" enough to need one. They say they are against "illegal" guns, but what they don't say is that they would like to make it illegal for most people to own them. I wonder why they would want more laws regarding illegal guns if it wasn't their agenda to take them out of more law abiding citizens hands??? Why wouldn't they just enforce the existing laws? If it's already illegal for someone to own a firearm, would new laws make it more illegal? I didn't realize there was a gray area there.

[SU405]

First of all, there is no middle ground when it comes to rights. None. "Shall not be infringed" means just that. To suggest that there is a middle ground, is to suggest that there can be some sort of concession on each side to meet in the "middle." "Concession" is synonymous with "infringe" in this context.

Second, I don't think you can get a CCW in New York unless you have political connections.

Third, don't you think it is a the slightest bit ridiculous that an entire organization needs to be created to be against illegal guns? I bet there isn't a Mayors Against Illegal Rape, or Mayors Against Illegal Kidnapping. Use your head.

THIS ^^^^ X A MILLION!

[Moviestar]

First of all, there is no middle ground when it comes to rights. None. "Shall not be infringed" means just that. To suggest that there is a middle ground, is to suggest that there can be some sort of concession on each side to meet in the "middle." "Concession" is synonymous with "infringe" in this context.

Second, I don't think you can get a CCW in New York unless you have political connections.

Third, don't you think it is a the slightest bit ridiculous that an entire organization needs to be created to be against illegal guns? I bet there isn't a Mayors Against Illegal Rape, or Mayors Against Illegal Kidnapping. Use your head.

1st: yes there is a middle ground a good example is scott brown. He supports CCW but makes you register the pistol as well as carry a license to own it. Another good example is pro choice, they support the right for people to choose for themselves. They aren't going to tell you what to do, and it doesn't mean they are telling people to abort babies. Concession is not synonymous with infringe, mainly because this wouldn't be infringing. Illegal guns does not mean Legal guns, and illegal guns are clearly defined.

2nd: you can get a ccw in new york, to get one in NYC you have to plead your case. do get one in an upstate county you have to apply but can't take it into NYC. So you can still get it.

3rd: They don't need a mayors against illegal rape, or illegal kidnapping because those aren't major issues used to get votes. You join an Illegal gun organizations to get votes from undecided anti-gun people. That doesn't mean it is on your agenda. Obama is another example as previously stated.

Use your head, and learn to comprehend the reading material, and do outside research to prove your point. You clearly need to open up your mind, take off the tin foil, and realize there is such thing as a middle ground. There isn't only an extreme right or extreme left, there is also a thing called centrist. You honestly sound ridiculous to me, you sound uneducated at anything involving politics, and like a cranky old man who thinks everyone is out to steal his gun. I probably sound like a wide-eyed college kid, but at least i'm wise enough to open my head and look at both sides of the subject.

Besides this is the only post the OP has...