Waterboarding...

[Ryan_Th3_K1d]

http://content1.clipmarks.com/conten...4-3A07CF501B7C


Good to know just in case...

[Great-Kazoo]

of what. you wanting to blow yourself and a few US citizens up?
i'm all in favor of using it on Enemy Non Combatents. or as i call them Muslim Extremist.
no uniform NO geneva convention applies.

[Troublco]

of what. you wanting to blow yourself and a few US citizens up?
i'm all in favor of using it on Enemy Non Combatents. or as i call them Muslim Extremist.
no uniform NO geneva convention applies.

+1. And after interrogation a summary execution by firing squad would sew things up nicely, to say nothing of preventing them from returning to the battlefield as so many former Guantanamo residents have.

[Ryan_Th3_K1d]

I just found the video interesting...I've had a couple long arguments with people about waterboarding being torture. I think we should use waterboarding for any enemy combatant lucky enough to be captured. I wish they would bring back the quick drop and sudden stop for the death penalty.

[sniper7]

of what. you wanting to blow yourself and a few US citizens up?
i'm all in favor of using it on Enemy Non Combatents. or as i call them Muslim Extremist.
no uniform NO geneva convention applies.

+1

[GreenScoutII]

of what. you wanting to blow yourself and a few US citizens up?
i'm all in favor of using it on Enemy Non Combatents. or as i call them Muslim Extremist.
no uniform NO geneva convention applies.

+1

If a little waterboarding stops another 9/11, it doesn't bother my consience one little bit if some terrorist gets a little wet.

Waterboarding is torture? Boo-Hoo, my pussy hurts....

[BigBear]

I agree that if they are not wearing a "standard, recognized" uniform, anything goes. I may be a little hard hearted on this but...

If I captured several "terrorists" or just plain enemy combantants. I put them all in the same room and line them up. Ask one a question. He doesn't answer, blow his head off. Go down the line.

Waterboarding isn't fun but it's not life threatening. My dad had a friend that was in 'Nam and was a POW for about 4 years. Unfortunately about 6 years after he was freed he divorced his wife, left his kids, and committed suicide. Before he did that though, he had some crazy stories about torture...

If an "enemy" has information that can save your or your team/country/side/etc life, ANYTHING goes in my mind.

Flame suit on.

[iamhunter]

I'm not against waterboarding terrorists by any means.

But what I AM against is all the propoganda BS on both sides "Ohh nooo we can't torture them..."

"It's not torture, it only simulates drowning."

The video is correct. It doesn not "simulate" drowning. It is slow drowning. and it is torture.

And no, the geneva conventions do NOT apply because

They're not soldiers. They're terrorists. "non combatants"


All that said, if some terrorist has vital information, torture away.

Let's just call it what it is.

[275RLTW]

Waterboarding is nowhere near torture. We do it to our own troops in SERE school. The politicains have really screwed this up. Now, even physical exercise is considered extreme (even though srtaight out of FM 21-20 and required by EVERY soldier, EVERY morning) when applied to captured prisoners. Since when did terrorists get more rights than the soldier?

[Hoosier]

Wow, not a single person here thinks waterboarding is torture? I've also seen video of Christopher Hitchens being waterboarded, he lasted a similarly short amount of time.

I'm pretty shocked no one considers it torture. I'm guessing if you had it done to you, you would feel differently.

I'm also fairly surprised that everyone believes life is like an episode of 24, where torturing the bad guy is going to magically save lives. Because that guy they sent to be a suicide bomber would have been filled in on the details of their next operation.

We convicted Japanese after WWII for waterboarding... double standards are a good way to make lots of people hate us. People hating us makes it much easier for terrorists to do their work, get financed, etc. I say that waterboarding has made us less safe.

But hooray for feeling like you're getting some retribution, I guess. I'm tired of people taking "common sense" approaches to things, with no regard for the complexity and longevity of the repercussions. We are still paying for what we did to install the Shah in Iran, still paying for supporting Saddam against Iran, still paying for our blind support of Israel. Are we still going to be paying a price 50 years from now?

H.