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    I got the same email as you guys did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    It is interesting because there HAVE been several documented gun crimes on gun free campuses by criminals. They KNOW that this won't change anything as far as gun crime goes. There have been no documented gun accidents involving legal carries that I'm aware of (There has to be some out there, not necessarily lethal though) yet they change the law anyway. Why?

    The only explanation I can think of, is that people are afraid of being elected into a position and being considered a "Do nothing elected official" during their term. Personally, I think a "do nothing" politician is the BEST kind, and I understand that they don't see it that way. However, to pick doing something counterproductive to...anything really, just doesn't make sense to me. If this change isn't adding safety and isn't making money, what is the point?
    Exactly: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    It does give them something else to charge some maniac with..." Mr Maniac, you are charged with 7 counts of Murder in the 1st degree, 14 counts of Attempted Murder in the 1st degree, and 1 count of 3rd degree Criminal Trespass..."

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    Can you charge for criminal trespassing for something that boils down to just being internal policy? The school can't anyone for this. Literally the only thing that they can do is expel a currently enrolled student. So again, it is mind boggling that they'd even bother going through all this for a policy that will almost literally affect no one. Someone who isn't a student isn't going to give a crap. A student who wants to commit a school shooting CERTAINLY can't expect to go back to classes next semester.

    This must just be for the sake of the parents. Pretty nice of the school to go out of their way to pretend to protect all those legal adults for the worried parents out there.

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    * 3rd degree criminal trespass is the charge they use if you refuse to leave with your weapon when there is a posted "no guns" policy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    Exactly: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

    It does give them something else to charge some maniac with..." Mr Maniac, you are charged with 7 counts of Murder in the 1st degree, 14 counts of Attempted Murder in the 1st degree, and 1 count of 3rd degree Criminal Trespass..."
    Actually I don't think it even does that. When I heard the charges that we brought against the guy who shot the kids at the school there was not a charge for having a firearm at the school, just the attempted murder charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    * 3rd degree criminal trespass is the charge they use if you refuse to leave with your weapon when there is a posted "no guns" policy....
    They could TRY to charge you with it, but that fact is that the CSU board of directors has no legal authority.

    They can try to act like this "Policy" is law all they want, but it's not.

    The only way they can even enforce it is with the threat of expulsion, which seems an awful lot like coercion to me.

    And I highly doubt any attempted criminal allegations would hold up in court.

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