Open Carry Question

[iamhunter]

What exactly is the definition of "in plain site" when it comes to open carry?

What if I'm wearing a shirt or sweater that covers, say, part of the pistol grip while wearing pistol on the hip?

(Not that I want to cover it, i'm just concerned that while walking around, my shirt could fall over part of the pistol)

Just curious if anyone has definitive knowledge on the point at which a weapon can legally be considered "concealed"

[Irving]

I think you need to be careful not to have your shirt cover it. What is the difference between your shirt falling over it, and covering it with a suit jacket?

[BigBear]

If ANYTHING is covered... it is considered concealed. If your shirt blows in the wind and it gets stuck on the holster covering an inch of the grip... it's considered concealed and you must possess a liscense to carry...

[iamhunter]

So I suppose the only solid solution would be a thigh-rigged combat holster?

I find it fairly ridiculous that if 90% of the gun is visible, that it could still be considered concealed.

but the law is the law.

[cowboykjohnson]

Thigh rig would be a good option, or a tucked in shirt with a hip holster.

[Irving]

I'd like to open carry with an inside the waist band holster, but I can't.

I've open carried once with an outside the waistband holster and my shirt and jacket weren't low enough to cover the gun.

[TFOGGER]

Legal definition per Wheatridge Municipal Code:

Concealment means the deliberate hiding of a weapon upon or near the person with the intent to avoid the lawful detection thereof. It shall be evidence of concealment that the weapon is hidden so as to make it immediately available for use in the fashion in which the weapon is designed to be used.

Different cities have different definitions, so it depends on where you're carrying....

[BigBear]

Best thing to do if you don't have a liscense is just tuck in your shirt and wear an OWB.

[BadShot]

Another fair definition from years ago is that if a person in a normal state of mind can identify it as a firearm, it's in the open. So in conjunction with something like the Wheatridge definition, you most likely aren't going to get nailed if your shirt tails billow over your holster on a windy day.

[BigBear]

Another fair definition from years ago is that if a person in a normal state of mind can identify it as a firearm, it's in the open. So in conjunction with something like the Wheatridge definition, you most likely aren't going to get nailed if your shirt tails billow over your holster on a windy day.

Don't leave it to fate though. Cops can still bust you for concealment if you don't have the permit and they are in a bad mood.