Texas Education

[BigMat]

I find it sad that a lot of Colorado schools don't teach the constitution, what the country was founded on and what basically all our laws should really be based from. just another way the system is trying to destroy the foundations of our country.

Solid point! I work with a lot of kids and wasn't in high school too long ago. Something some of the kids raised a little while back is how they were frustrated they aren't learning things critical to their life and are made to learn things they will probably never use. I understand getting a foundation, but when you finish high school and don't understand a credit card, how to balance a check book or get yourself into a trade, one really has to wonder why we even have time for this debate. Creationism can be moved to a church (of your choice), no problem, and evolution, and (as we are debating) the theory of natural selection can be saved for college. touch on each, in a comparative religion class and a biology class, but they aren't going to help you hold down a job or stay out of trouble, and it seems to me that's what our young people need help with.

[Ed_S]

I think the school system is messed up in terms of what subjects are thought to be important.

At a recent high school meeting I had a parent trying to impress the importance of Latin on everyone! She went on to say it was as important as math and science! Hmm!

As for ‘creationism’ - in my opinion

[BigBear]

Time for the music teacher to step in....

Latin died over 400 years ago. Besides, why teach Latin (or Greek, Aramaic, or ANY of the old world languages) when our kids can barely speak/write English to save their lives?!!?!?! Spanish is MANDATED as a foriegn language in a lot of districts. Takes funds from other programs, and also jobs from a lot of teachers. Sometimes the bi-lingual teachers for ESL, etc use solely Spanish in the ENGLISH classes. A lot of them shouldn't even be liscencesd to teach.... it just so happens they speak conversational Spanish. (Not the standard dialect you would find in mainland Spain, just "mexican). No wonder no one can speak English. Needless to say, these districts also have a long streak of low socio-economical standing, high crime, and failing records on "standards" (TAKS/etc) testing (Math, Science, English, et al.) Blah, blah... moot point. Bottom line is teachers can't do jack until Parents take responsibility for helping teach their own damned bloodsuckers.

Evolution vs creationism... I've been fighting this for a while. Does evolution exist? Yes. 300 years ago, people were no more than 5'4 average height. Now a days, 6 feet is generally accepted as the norm. Pinky toes are getting smaller and smaller as the use for precise balance transfers from the toes to the whole foot. Several species animals have been able be suplanted to a different enviroment/habitat and have evolved characteristics to help them adapt.

Now do I believe I came from some genetic hodgepodge primordial soup, no. My personal beliefs can't simply say that I am a random generator in a machine. The pure math involved in finding the right combination on amino acids, the correct soup it would be in, the correct tempertatures, the pure size of our universe (that we currently know of), the correct... blah, are simply out of this world. Who knows if the "God created the world in 7 days" means a literal 24 hour day? There is another scripture along the lines of "your life is as a blink or a vapor vanishing on the wind". 1 day could've been a billion years for all we know.

I don't understand how practical evolution and creationism (taught correctly) CAN'T be used in a classroom....

[Irving]

Evolution is a fact. Where humans specifically originated from is left up to theories, but evolution itself is a fact.

[BigBear]

Evolution is a fact. Where humans specifically originated from is left up to theories, but evolution itself is a fact.

Lol, can always count on the Donkey. Good way to sum it all up.