Religious Question

[bellavite1]

I find that answering the door with a pentagram painted on my face, wearing my satanic robes, holding the recent goat sacifice,, They leave fairly quickly..

So I am not alone!
When I moved to my newly purchased home, a few years ago, we had New Born Christians living across the street chanting and smiling at us...
ALL DAY LONG...
We started displaying our faith and our neighbor , who lives next door to them, started drowning their chants with Metallica and Sepultura!
They moved!
Now I happily live in a mostly Atheist-Satanist block of houses.
We did not start the war, but we sure won it.
Fight fire with fire!

[BigBear]

I have a question. I'm under the impression that the King James Bible is just a version of the Bible that was edited by King James to fit his whims. How can people take that seriously? I suspect there is more to it than that, so I'd like to hear what people have to say about it.

Stu, read this: http://www.av1611.org/kjv/kjvhist.html

To sum it all up: At the time, there were literally hundreds of bibles supposedly translated from the Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic. However, they were all different, and some downright idiotic. James, wanted to get as pure a translation as possible so they made a convention and set rules for translation to get the most closely translated English version possible.

Even today, if you take the NIV vs the KJV, there are sublte differences that completely change the meaning of the verse, for example: http://www.chick.com/information/bib...comparison.asp

[Justin]

You're linking to Jack Chick's website in a non-ironic manner.

Might want to do something about that.

[BigBear]

You're linking to Jack Chick's website in a non-ironic manner.

Might want to do something about that.

?? I know nothing about jack chick, etc. I just googled differences between KJV and NIV and it popped up. Took out my bibles to check and they are correct, so I posted. Who is Jack and what's wrong with him?

[Tim K]

More people have been killed in the name of religion than for any other reason.

Oh, bullshit. (with a smile and a wink) Hitler didn't kill in the name of religion, neither did Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and most of the worlds recent tyrants. Their killings overwhelm the relatively puny numbers of people killed in the name of god by Christians, Muslims, Jews, and whoever else has had a crusade. The truly gifted mass murderers did their thing for power, not god. In many cases, the victims of these monsters were people of faith. They were not the killers, but the killees.

[Mtn.man]

Oh, bullshit. (with a smile and a wink) Hitler didn't kill in the name of religion, neither did Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and most of the worlds recent tyrants. Their killings overwhelm the relatively puny numbers of people killed in the name of god by Christians, Muslims, Jews, and whoever else has had a crusade. The truly gifted mass murderers did their thing for power, not god. In many cases, the victims of these monsters were people of faith. They were not the killers, but the killees.

Hitler and the above only killed a few Mill.
If you research religious war death tolls
from record keeping 55+ million or more are attributed to religious wars, be it the Crusades, witch hunts, the taming of American Indians (to convert them Christianity that is), Brigham Young, Muslims , and on and on.

[Tim K]

Hitler and the above only killed a few Mill.
If you research religious war death tolls
from record keeping 55+ million or more are attributed to religious wars, be it the Crusades, witch hunts, the taming of American Indians (to convert them Christianity that is), Brigham Young, Muslims , and on and on.

Mao wins this gruesome contest all by himself with estimates ranging from 70 to 100 million. Add the others in, and it's no contest.

Hitler - 10 million
Stalin - 20 million
Pol Pot - 2 million

I'd dispute the 55+ million number also. 15 minutes of research makes it look like getting to 1 million in the events you describe would be pretty difficult.

I don't mean to dispute that much harm has been done in the name of religion. Much certainly has. However, I disagree that religion is the main cause of war and suffering. Greed and power are the true motivators in most cases.

[bellavite1]

Mao wins this gruesome contest all by himself with estimates ranging from 70 to 100 million. Add the others in, and it's no contest.

Hitler - 10 million
Stalin - 20 million
Pol Pot - 2 million

I'd dispute the 55+ million number also. 15 minutes of research makes it look like getting to 1 million in the events you describe would be pretty difficult.

I don't mean to dispute that much harm has been done in the name of religion. Much certainly has. However, I disagree that religion is the main cause of war and suffering. Greed and power are the true motivators in most cases.

Problem is (and the Vatican is there to prove it), that religion, greed and power often go hand in hand.

[Irving]

I find it highly ironic that pro-gun people talk about religion the same way that surrender monkeys talk about guns.

[refryguy]

While I respect the Judeo-Christian ethic as well as the eastern philosophies and even the teachings of Mohamed, I find that organized religion has corrupted those beliefs in order to justify countless human atrocities throughout history. Were I to attend church, I would be a hypocrite.