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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanek9freak View Post

    I Can't stand it when I see some shit on the news about some bible thumper standing up for gun rights.

    I'll take ANYONE who will stand up for our rights.

    It seems to me you're more anti-religion than anything.

    Which is fine, but suggesting that it makes you look bad because Christians tend to favor gun-rights as a whole, is an ignorant and immature conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamhunter View Post
    I'll take ANYONE who will stand up for our rights.

    It seems to me you're more anti-religion than anything.

    Which is fine, but suggesting that it makes you look bad because Christians tend to favor gun-rights as a whole, is an ignorant and immature conclusion.
    You have one thing correct, I am STRONGLY anti-religion. Don't misconstrue what I'm saying. I DO beleive in God, but I have strong aversion to organized worship of any kind. I think it all borders on cult-like activity. I was baptized Catholic, but renounced it years ago when those hypocritical child molesters wouldn't baptize my daughter, juse because her mother and I weren't married.

    I don't want people to NOT stand up for gun rights, but it's the Christian fundamentalist whack jobs that I don't want to be associated with. The likes of James Dobson or Ted Haggard. People always assume i'm some super right wing conservative jesus freak, just because I love me some guns.

    The only reason I love firearms, is because they are beautiful works of art, that can end life. So much more than just the sum of their parts.
    I spent my Obama Stimulus money on a GUN!

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    Sounds like you need Jesus!

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    depends on the person/religion. if you follow what the bible says and are a true believer (ie, don't have just blind faith but actually have experiences to back it up) then sharing the Gospel is simply what you think everyone needs to hear. i mean think about it, it may annoy you (believe me i can understand why) but in reality they are just hoping that you will have what they have: the promise of eternal life and a relationship with your creator. now if you don't agree with their beliefs, this will seem annoying to you, and like i said, understandably so. but in general it really is with good intentions.

    for others, as previously stated by other posters, its a requirement. now its true in the bible it says to share your faith but it is not a requirement, simply something you should feel obligated to do based on what you have been given. other spin offs will say that you have to to go to heaven, etc, but there is nothing to really back that up.

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    While I respect the Judeo-Christian ethic as well as the eastern philosophies and even the teachings of Mohamed, I find that organized religion has corrupted those beliefs in order to justify countless human atrocities throughout history. Were I to attend church, I would be a hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by refryguy View Post
    While I respect the Judeo-Christian ethic as well as the eastern philosophies and even the teachings of Mohamed, I find that organized religion has corrupted those beliefs in order to justify countless human atrocities throughout history. Were I to attend church, I would be a hypocrite.
    the problem here is that very few people have been proven to be truly religious. most are like many of the muslim clerics in radical parts of the middle east today. they teach (often to illiterate people) that the religion says to kill anyone who disagrees, so what do these people do? they kill for that person. its a classic puppet/puppet master problem. the leadership who organize the death of people are rarely truly religious, they simply use religion to confuse and in some case blind people into doing what they want. in the end its all for power, religion is just used as a catalyst to gain support.

    i can't really believe anyone would dispute that more deaths have been caused in the name of religion than none. as stated, mao himself is said to have been responsible for upwards of 50 million. hitler easily 20 million. stalin has numbers ranging from 20 million to 50 million. and so on and so forth. as previously stated, its all about power. heck, even in the bible you can see that with the pharisees. what they did was never in the name of religion, it was for personal gain, they just used religion to gain that power. there is a big difference

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    Here is what I am gonna do. Starting tomorrow I am going to attend religious gatherings of all denominations (monday thru sunday) get in good graces with all so that when my time here is done I can party like a rock star! Think of all the benefits from multiple religions when you die! I'm just kidding, but everyone here knows what happens to a polite religious conversation, they turn ugly...........everytime. So far though this one has been pretty civil, good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by refryguy View Post
    While I respect the Judeo-Christian ethic as well as the eastern philosophies and even the teachings of Mohamed, I find that organized religion has corrupted those beliefs in order to justify countless human atrocities throughout history. Were I to attend church, I would be a hypocrite.
    Actually most of those countless human atrocities throughout history were over land and/or money ... so do you feel like a hypocrite when you're at a bank or realtor's office?


    Religions, like guns, are often misused by the evil. That doesn't mean that religions (or guns) in and of themselves are bad things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post

    Religions, like guns, are often misused by the evil. That doesn't mean that religions (or guns) in and of themselves are bad things.
    +1

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    What the heck, I've been saying that for four pages now. Way to steal my thunder.



    Maybe I was only thinking it...

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