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    Default Magpul Dynamics - MEDICAL - Colorado (3 different dates)

    Magpul Dynamics

    Dynamic Shooter Aid — 2 Day (Non-Live Fire)

    Longmont, Colorado

    $500/student





    ***Magpul Dynamics - Dynamic Shooter Aid (2 day) will be offered at the Trigger Time Gun Club on the following dates:

    -April 24-25, 2010

    -July 17-18, 2010

    -October 9-10, 2010
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    Course Description:
    When things go wrong in a hostile environment are you prepared mentally, physically and medically? Focused on all of the basic "stay alive" trauma management skills, this is a fast-paced, hands-on course that blends traumatic injury treatment in a variety of high risk scenarios based on real-life incidents. Students will be expected to utilize their equipment while under stress to "save" critically injured team members.

    -Basic First Aid- A,B,C's "The Big Three"

    -Basic Anatomy and Physiology of life-sustaining systems

    -Physiological and Psychological reactions to environmental stress

    -Breakdown and usage of Individual Med Kits components Proper stowage and employment of the IMK

    -Hands-on application of the IMK

    -Proper use of tourniquets

    -Basic and Advanced Airway management (ARS Needle)-treating and monitoring tension pneumothorax

    -Advanced Airway adjunct device placement-Nasal airway

    -Recognition and Treatment of various injuries (Gunshot, Laceration, Burn, Airway, Head, Orthopedic, Environmental)

    -Recognition and treatment of hypovolemic (hemorrhagic) shock

    -Moving victims

    -Positioning victims--Recovery position, maintaining open airway, head injury, thorax injury, c-spine injury, abdominal injury

    -Proper use of cover and cover vs. concealment

    -One-handed manipulation of weapons systems and medical kit

    -Response to hyperviolent shooter situation

    -Downed LEO in an Active Shooter situation

    -Response to home invasion

    -Mass casualty triage procedure

    -Emergency Medical Dialect/Lingo (911 protocol, cooperation with LE, Fire and EMS and First Responders)





    Hardware/Kit:

    -An open mind

    -Individual First Aid Kit

    -Note pad, and pen/pencil

    -Clothing suited to strenuous type activity as well as being seasonally appropriate

    -Appropriate foot wear





    To register for this class call 1.877.4MAGPUL ext 126 or email jreynolds@magpul.com


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    For local information pertaining to the class, contact Ken at, ken@triggertimegunclub.com





    The class will be held at:

    Trigger Time Gun Club

    3575 Stagecoach Road North
    Longmont, CO 80504
    (303) 651-0816

    www.triggertimegunclub.com



    An added bonus for this class:

    1) Magpul Dynamics is offering all students a 20% discount off of one order from www.magpul.com (discount can only be used on one order and order has to be made within a year from the date of signing up for class
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    Semper Fi,
    Jeff

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    Interesting to see them deviating from the American Heart Assoc with circulation beforeairway (according to their webiste). It seems that most of the MD's in this world agree that no matter how much blood is pumped through you, if there is no oxygen in it, it's useless....don't even get me started on teaching chest decompression for tension pneumothorax to non-medics. They are opening up a liability issue there. There is a reason you have to be an EMT-P or equivalent operating under a MD's license to do this. And don't forget your knee and elbow pads since you'll have those on should you be involved in shooting.
    Just some thoughts....

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    Interesting to see them deviating from the American Heart Assoc with circulation beforeairway (according to their webiste). It seems that most of the MD's in this world agree that no matter how much blood is pumped through you, if there is no oxygen in it, it's useless....don't even get me started on teaching chest decompression for tension pneumothorax to non-medics. They are opening up a liability issue there. There is a reason you have to be an EMT-P or equivalent operating under a MD's license to do this. And don't forget your knee and elbow pads since you'll have those on should you be involved in shooting.
    Just some thoughts....
    My thoughts too. Several of those topics take hours to cover (not to mention generally require more than a "basic" overview of critical A&P to do correctly), I question whether enough of the material and hands-on can sufficiently be covered in a 2-day class to make it useful, or just dangerous. I get the whole life over limb thing, but covering all of that in 2 days......hmm.

    My EMT-B class took 4 months, 8-16 hours a week, and even I can't do some of those things, even with ancillary approvals and training on top of that. I guess if you're in the position that it's up to you or the guy dies this might be a good class to take, but in that position qualified medics would likely be on scene anyway (otherwise how did you get the equipment to do a needle decomp, place an NPA, drop an advanced airway, etc?).

    I'd love to hear more from a real medic who has taken this class...

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    Hey guys,

    Reading and understanding your concerns, please allow me to cover a couple of things:
    As far as deviation from current standard of practice goes, yes it is but it is situational and based on real-world evaluation and treatment based on the TCCC algorithms and knowing the mechanism of injury.
    The situation would be a hyper-violent shooting, range accident, etc. in which one would assess for any massive hemorrhage first as that kills almost 80% of gunshot wound victims, then you assess airway (which kills less than 10%) and finally, breathing, which kills a little over 10%. Thus the rationale for teaching CAB vs. ABC.
    I also understand your point in the chest decompression and no one is being certified in this procedure at all. It is for information and familiarization purposes only!!! Since it typically takes 1-2 hours for the tension pnemo to develop, the victim will most likely be at a definitive care facility well before they need the decompression and would then 'buy' a chest tube anyay. Please check out the website. We have updated the information for clarity.
    As far as the nasal airway goes, it is a basic airway adjunct and again, is informational only. Many Infantry soldiers are instructed in how to use this adjunct and when not to use this adjunct every month at Combat Life Saver classes and it requires very little practice or expertise to apply properly. The emphasis will be on using the recovery position and gravity to help maintain an open airway.

    The class is geared towards the lay person who would like to know how to save a life using BASIC equipment and skills. The only certification will be in first aid.
    The class will be taught by me. I have over 14 years of pre-hospital experience as a military flight medic and paramedic with 7 years of in-hospital experience as a critical care and emergency RN. Again, I simply want to teach people the basic skills necessary to save a life and I emphasize the word 'basic'. Oh, the knee and elbow pads are optional and for use during practice scenarios for folks who have bad knees. Of course you probably won't have them on in the event of a real shooting but we're just trying to save some 'wear and tear' on joints.
    Please also keep in mind that the American Red Cross Basic First Aid class is right at 2 hours long. There will be a lot of information in this class, yes, but not to the point of giving someone just enough knowledge to make them dangerous. I'm going to teach about heat and cold injuries and other topics but I will concentrate on teaching on how to achieve hemostasis, maintaining an open airway and treating a sucking chest wound (non-invasively) so that when EMS does arrive, hopefully the victim will have a pulse and a chance at living.
    Please email me at: kerry@magpuldynamics with any questions or concerns. I would be more than happy to answer them.
    Thank you. Take care,
    JM
    Last edited by jumpmedic; 03-25-2010 at 12:14. Reason: addition of material

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    Thanks for the info.

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    No worries. It was my pleasure. I appreciate the chance to clarify matters. Please feel free to contact me with any questions or concerns.
    Stay safe,
    JM

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    TAKE THIS CLASS!!! You never know when it will happen.

    Summer, 1998. I had already taken about 6 years of of classes with this course, Handgun Use and Safety, Lane Community College, OR. It consisted of several classes, skill builders, classroom time, and tons of practical applications at the range.

    I was taking one of the final classes offered in the course, Advanced training from Concealed Carry. I happened to be the only lefty in the class and since I was using a Galco Fanny Holster I stood on the far right of the firing line as it's a cross draw, the righty's on my left. We were well into the class and practicing a "draw and fire 2 in 2 seconds" drill. I had just put 2 in the 10 ring when something hit me in the ass, hard. As I re-holstered I could see a Glock 19 spinning about 4 feet in front of the firing line on the ground, I turn to my left and the guy who was standing there is now falling into my arms while grabbing his leg. Turns out he was not practicing safe trigger control and shot himself through his holster, and into his thigh.

    I helped him to the ground, he confirmed that he just shot himself. I was trained in basic first aid but realized right there that I was totally unprepared for this situation. First and foremost I didn't have any protective gloves to keep his blood off of me so I grabbed his hands and placed each one over the entry and exit holes. I rolled him for a moment to check for arterial bleeding, lucky none. The FMJ 9mm 119gr round missed his artery by less than 1" and left him with a nice story to tell. The hospital sent him home with some antibotics and a tylenol. I was very proud of myself and never once lost my cool until it was all over and the ambulance had taken him away, then I just broke down. Turns out the "hit in the ass" I took was either shrapnel from the 9mm round or the asphalt, either way it didn't do anything but scare the shit out of me.

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    Next class is a month away
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    Another training oppertunity next week
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