Close
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 28
  1. #1

    Default Shooting at higher altitudes

    I see every once in a while someone will make referance to altitude when shooting. Does it have an impact on how your firearm shoots, or on accuracy?
    Certified NRA Instructor, ask me about CCW classes

    /l , [____],
    l----L -OlllllllO-
    ()_) ()_)------)_) Jeep ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

    My Feedback + 50 lost during the site crash

  2. #2
    Grand Master Know It All trlcavscout's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Milliken
    Posts
    3,081

    Default

    The difference in pressures at different altitudes will change your POI up/down. As well as humidity and temp.

  3. #3
    Guest
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Aurora CO
    Posts
    207

    Default

    Correct me if I'm wrong because I am still in the beginning stages of learning myself.

    But specifically, higher altitude = less dense air = less drop and higher velocity at target than lower altitude?

    Hotter air and less humidity = similar results as above since the air is easier to cut through

    wind seems self explanatory.

  4. #4

    Default

    Ingteresting, it makes perfectly good sense I just never thought of it.

    So, if you site your gun in at 200 yards in the mountains at 10,000 ft, then go some where and you are at sea level your POI will essentially be lower, correct?

    Thanks
    Certified NRA Instructor, ask me about CCW classes

    /l , [____],
    l----L -OlllllllO-
    ()_) ()_)------)_) Jeep ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

    My Feedback + 50 lost during the site crash

  5. #5
    QUITTER Irving's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    Denver, CO
    Posts
    46,527
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    I was going to ask about available oxygen to feed the explosion, but it seems like since the case is sealed, it wouldn't really be an issue. Maybe less flash though?

  6. #6
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Bailey CO
    Posts
    6,268

    Default

    If you site in at sea level, and then come to a altitude of say 10k then you will be a smidge high depending on cal., grains, etc. it is not real signifcant at 100 or so yards, but beyond that it can make a difference. Not sure if velocity is a factor. Just going on personal info from shooting up here at 10k+ and then going to FL

  7. #7
    COAR SpecOps Team Leader theGinsue's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Colo Spr
    Posts
    21,964
    Blog Entries
    4

    Default

    spleify - Yes, and no. Thr POI will be different, not necessarily lower. There ar a lot of variable to consider. Even if all other options were controlled, to simply state that the change in altitude will cause the POI to be lower" to much too simplified

    If you are a big game hunter here in CO, I'm sure that you have heard that, in addition to shooting your hunting rifle throughout the year, you should also try to shoot your rifle at a similar altiude and preferably nearby your actual hunting location.
    Ginsue - Admin
    Proud Infidel Since 1965

    "You can't spell genius without Ginsue." -Ray1970, Apr 2020

    Ginsue's Feedback

  8. #8
    Grand Master Know It All trlcavscout's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Milliken
    Posts
    3,081

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    spleify - Yes, and no. Thr POI will be different, not necessarily lower. There ar a lot of variable to consider. Even if all other options were controlled, to simply state that the change in altitude will cause the POI to be lower" to much too simplified

    If you are a big game hunter here in CO, I'm sure that you have heard that, in addition to shooting your hunting rifle throughout the year, you should also try to shoot your rifle at a similar altiude and preferably nearby your actual hunting location.
    Exactly. If your sighted for 2k at 80 degrees F and you go hunt at 10k+ and 20 degrees F it could be a big difference, plus other variables like your rifle, the ammo etc. Even if 100yds is your max distance I would check your sights when you get there. I have seen a 2-3" difference just changing a couple k feet and 20 degrees or so even with similar humidity. Also a crosswind will have a different effect in different conditions. And like Ginsue said it doesnt always change the way you think or hope it will.

  9. #9
    Freeform Funkafied funkfool's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Colorado Springs
    Posts
    2,846

    Default

    I have been looking into this and have found this to help...
    http://www.jbmballistics.com/calcula...ulations.shtml
    And one (of many suggested) books:
    http://www.appliedballisticsllc.com/...files/Book.htm
    NRA Benefactor Member
    "If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin." Samuel Adams
    Feedback and Disclaimer

  10. #10
    Really is Llama Not_A_Llama's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    South Denver
    Posts
    992

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    I was going to ask about available oxygen to feed the explosion, but it seems like since the case is sealed, it wouldn't really be an issue. Maybe less flash though?
    Gunpowder contains its own oxidizer. Guns work in space - the Soviets had an AA cannon mounted on one of their stations.

    Less air density means your bullet is subjected to less drag. It's not a lot, though, until your distances get pretty long.
    9mm - because they don't make a 9.1mm

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •