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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Chicken and elk okay?
    I'm down for elk anytime!!
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    chicken and elk are perfect. I would be up for it. I am one of those who thinks that its your land and you can do anything on it you want to as long as its not hurting someone else or their land, But I dont know that root beer could have been quite threatening. Tell us all when.

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    Roasted Pig is what am thinking, I would have told them to get the fuck off my land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_187 View Post
    Roasted Pig is what am thinking, I would have told them to get the fuck off my land.

    Keep in mind that I live "in town" and in a sub-division. My "land" is all of 6000 sq ft, and (actually), the police never left the street or public sidewalk. They had ME step into the street with them.

    But, yeah, I agree with where you all are going with this.

    You know, I understand that they've got a tough job and need to proceed with caution to a supposed firearms call. I also think that, once I showed them I wasn't carrying a firearm, wasn't intoxicated, wasn't aggressive, etc., that they could have changed their demeanor. They could have considered the possibility that I wasn't a threat to ANYONE nad perhaps the call was bogus!

    Here's a question. If OC is legal in CO, but OCing a firearm secured in a holster is "felony menacing" if ANY decides that they feel threatened by it, how is it really legal?

    They can tell me all they want that simply carrying an expandable baton (in it's CLOSED position) or a holstered firearm without any sort of brandishing is "menacing", "confrontational", "intimidating", "threatening" or "initiating aggression", but I will ensure I have the means to defend myself from potential assault. If the simple possession of a force equalizer is wrong, then we have fallen farther than I realized!
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    I agree. I wasn't going anywhere with the questions, except I was trying to evaluate what I'm getting myself into with CC. If somebody sees my gun, in my own freaking yard, can that be an issue?
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    You need to remember, yes they can charge you with just about anything, what the DA can convict you of is a totally different thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newracer View Post
    You need to remember, yes they can charge you with just about anything, what the DA can convict you of is a totally different thing.
    He is right... ass*oles wear all kinds of uniforms. You only have to come across one.
    Maybe he was just having a bad day... or maybe not.

    Remember: If you are OC or CC you will be held to a higher standard - you must try twice as hard to de-escalate the situation in a civilian encounter.
    I would definetly consider reporting this up the chain of command, as you were within your rights a a citizen (in my opinion) and having the local patrol officer hassle you is not what I would consider good community interaction.
    Perhaps an informative telephone call to CSPD - stating something like - "Hey, I had some interaction with an officer that made me feel intimidated and just wanted to let you know - what is the proceedure to follow in this instance?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldrwl View Post
    I agree. I wasn't going anywhere with the questions, except I was trying to evaluate what I'm getting myself into with CC. If somebody sees my gun, in my own freaking yard, can that be an issue?
    Quote Originally Posted by newracer View Post
    You need to remember, yes they can charge you with just about anything, what the DA can convict you of is a totally different thing.

    Apparently, they can convict too:
    http://www.colorado-criminal-lawyer..../menacing.html

    Pretty much, just existing and having someone claim that you intimidated / threatened them is enough for a misdemeanor or even felony menacing conviction in CO.

    Just goes to show that the laws aren't there to handle the bad guys, they are there to control the good guys!
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    Their threats are idle in my opinion. They can threaten to charge you with whatever they want, but it doesn't mean it won't get thrown out in court. I'd like to go to an open carry party.

    I'd like you to read this thread before you make plans for your party though.

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