Now THIS is what I'd like to see in the future

[Jer]

When you say something like this:


that is condescending.

either way, no feelings hurt, just no need to talk down to someone, even if it is on the internet.

Talking down? At no point in your statement did you even mention one of the single most important factors that affects fuel economy. You made assumptions about the fuel economy not changing at all and I brought up a factor that you failed to mention which is the driving factor behind the continued rate of fuel consumption. I factually brought up that point and you take offense now? What the hell is your problem? I've tried to be polite but now allow me to say something that maybe you can understand: If you were offended or if I hurt your feelings then you need to grow up and be an adult. You CHOSE to take offense and read between the lines so that's on you. To continue to drive this thread off topic is all you...

[sniper7]

Now you've edited your post to include some new information since I've posted to your unedited post so I will address the new items you have added.

For starters, it's not me but YOU who is trying to stir a pot that isn't even there. I was pretty sure we were having an adult conversation so I spoke factually and directly w/o any emotion. I wasn't aware we were in some sort of Internet battle when I made the post that you are referring to. You CHOSE to take offense to what I said and read into words that weren't even there. Several times now you have said that I stated you didn't grasp something... at what point did I say you 'failed to grasp a concept' aside from this post? Please don't put words into my mouth to spur some sort of childish Internet battle because you have low self esteem and chose to find offense to anything that I have stated. I don't think anyone else read what I typed as malicious or directed towards you in a negative matter the required some sort of retaliation to save face.

You are taking this thread WAY off topic for no reason what-so-ever.

be careful what you say...I have not edited my original post. go compare it to the one you initially quoted. maybe you looked over a few of the points I made.

YOU pointed my out directly by saying that I, like most people FAIL at understanding a concept. that is a direct accusation, your words and were not put into your mouth by myself.
If you would read a few posts up I said "no feelings hurt". you should have left it at that instead of making yourself look like a fool attacking someone on the internet.
now you again attack saying I have a low self esteem...please tell my how I have in any way said anything that would lead anyone to believe that. please take your malicious comments and shove them up your ass.

I simple said do not be condescending...you do know what that word means correct?

here is the definition: Assuming a tone of superiority or a patronizing attitude

when you call someone out directly and they they fail to grasp something I surely hope you have something to back it up.

"fool" now comes to mind when I see something you type out.

[sniper7]

Talking down? At no point in your statement did you even mention one of the single most important factors that affects fuel economy. You made assumptions about the fuel economy not changing at all and I brought up a factor that you failed to mention which is the driving factor behind the continued rate of fuel consumption. I factually brought up that point and you take offense now? What the hell is your problem? I've tried to be polite but now allow me to say something that maybe you can understand: If you were offended or if I hurt your feelings then you need to grow up and be an adult. You CHOSE to take offense and read between the lines so that's on you. To continue to drive this thread off topic is all you...

polite? you have FAILED at being polite. I said no feelings hurt and that there was no point at being condescending to someone on here...especially on here, and especially to someone that has been here as long as I have.
So please, take a minute, get yourself a new tampon and come back when you can not lash out at someone.

[Irving]

It snows a few inches for a few hours and this is the bickering the site is reduced to?

[sniper7]

I am sure the technology is out there or at least close.

you honestly can't tell me that cars have not been able to truly increase gas mileage over the past 40 years...VW diesel bugs still get just as good of gas mileage as the new Jetta TDI.
I know more factors go into it such as emissions and weight and size of the vehicle but still. A truck from the 80's can still get damn near the same MPG as a new truck today.
You would think by now all cars would be getting in the 30+ range and trucks that got under 20 MPG would be few and far between.

I think a lot of it has to do with the oil companies paying the manufacturers or buying into them to keep MPG down so the oil companies make more money. Pretty simple concept: you sell 1 vehicle to a person on average every 7 years, but you sell them 2000 gallons of gas in that same time with a lot higher profit margin.
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I am sure the technology is out there or at least close.

you honestly can't tell me that cars have not been able to truly increase gas mileage over the past 40 years...VW diesel bugs still get just as good of gas mileage as the new Jetta TDI.
I know more factors go into it such as emissions and weight and size of the vehicle but still. A truck from the 80's can still get damn near the same MPG as a new truck today.
You would think by now all cars would be getting in the 30+ range and trucks that got under 20 MPG would be few and far between.

I think a lot of it has to do with the oil companies paying the manufacturers or buying into them to keep MPG down so the oil companies make more money. Pretty simple concept: you sell 1 vehicle to a person on average every 7 years, but you sell them 2000 gallons of gas in that same time with a lot higher profit margin.

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I am sure the technology is out there or at least close.

you honestly can't tell me that cars have not been able to truly increase gas mileage over the past 40 years...VW diesel bugs still get just as good of gas mileage as the new Jetta TDI.
I know more factors go into it such as emissions and weight and size of the vehicle but still. A truck from the 80's can still get damn near the same MPG as a new truck today.
You would think by now all cars would be getting in the 30+ range and trucks that got under 20 MPG would be few and far between.

I think a lot of it has to do with the oil companies paying the manufacturers or buying into them to keep MPG down so the oil companies make more money. Pretty simple concept: you sell 1 vehicle to a person on average every 7 years, but you sell them 2000 gallons of gas in that same time with a lot higher profit margin.

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JER...the first one is my original post, the second is where toubleco quoted me and the third is where you quoted me.

you say I edited my post after you said I failed. read all three again and tell me where that was.
your failure to read everything and then attacking me was uncalled for.

you can apologize now.

[sniper7]

It snows a few inches for a few hours and this is the bickering the site is reduced to?

No, I tried to let it go, I said no feelings hurt even after being attacked, said my piece then he calls me out, calls me a liar and continues down a poor path.

I patiently wait an apology since he was dead WRONG.

[Jer]

be careful what you say...I have not edited my original post. go compare it to the one you initially quoted. maybe you looked over a few of the points I made.

YOU pointed my out directly by saying that I, like most people FAIL at understanding a concept. that is a direct accusation, your words and were not put into your mouth by myself.
If you would read a few posts up I said "no feelings hurt". you should have left it at that instead of making yourself look like a fool attacking someone on the internet.
now you again attack saying I have a low self esteem...please tell my how I have in any way said anything that would lead anyone to believe that. please take your malicious comments and shove them up your ass.

I simple said do not be condescending...you do know what that word means correct?

here is the definition: Assuming a tone of superiority or a patronizing attitude

when you call someone out directly and they they fail to grasp something I surely hope you have something to back it up.

"fool" now comes to mind when I see something you type out.

Holy crap.. here we go with even more made up information. The post you edited was the one I quoted. You can clearly see the original reply which I quoted and then you edited that reply and I quoted it again. It's plain as day to see what I'm talking about. I didn't once accuse you of editing another post to change you statements. You added information to the post I quoted and I even noted that you added info and quoted it again to address what you added. Ugh.

I never said you fail at understanding anything. You did agree fail to NOTE it though... didn't you? Of course you did because you didn't mention it once. How in the hell was I attacking you? I pointed out that you failed to note it. Wow.... SO offensive, right?

Now you try to put the definition of a word when it's clear to anyone with a 5th grade reading comprehension that it is YOU who has a hard time understanding what words are typed which started this all anyway.

Accusing someone of something and saying to leave it alone in the same breath is passive aggressive and will most certainly NOT serve to dissolve a situation. But you knew all that right?

Seriously, grow up. Even if I was personally attacking you (which is apparent to anyone else who's reading this that I wasn't) you need to not be such a pansy and take offense to all that is said and feel the need to defend your internet honor.

Fool comes to mind because I brought up a pretty important point you failed to note in your rant? Fair enough. Please think me a fool and block my posts and never read what I have to say or address anything that I type. That would prove me wrong. Please, do just that.

[ronaldrwl]

It snows a few inches for a few hours and this is the bickering the site is reduced to?

I try to put in my 2 cents knowing it will not be popular in this GI Joe club. And I'll usually leave it and not respond to the onslaught of flames.

[Jer]

polite? you have FAILED at being polite. I said no feelings hurt and that there was no point at being condescending to someone on here...especially on here, and especially to someone that has been here as long as I have.
So please, take a minute, get yourself a new tampon and come back when you can not lash out at someone.

You did so after you posted several things I was addressing. So to say you posted everything was cool after lashing out while I was addressing those is awfully childish. In fact, I'm going to wait a minute before I post this... then create a post saying everything is fine and when your post goes public I will try to act like it was I who was the bigger man here and you are clearly just dragging it out... since that what you've done to me.

The fact that, even though I've clearly stated which post I'm talking about, you think I'm talking about you editing THAT post is clearly a sign that you are in WAY over your head here and have zero idea what this conversation is even about. Post #35 is the one you edited and you can clearly see in my quotes what you added and what I commented on. Again, you chose to assume I was attacking you and all I did was quote the edited post to address the points you added. How is that attacking again?

And he wants an apology? Wow.

[Jer]

It's all good. We'll just agree to disagree and let it go.