Wilson Comabat??

[Hannu]

If this is true, then my desire to buy a 1911 is basically out the window. I can buy just about any poly gun at a reasonable price and expect it to be reliable/accurate/durable.

The cheapest STI is $700... which isn't bad, I just don't know if it's missing the magic fairy dust that makes other STI's worth 2x to 3x as much.

H.

Oh sorry, my bad. I do not consider non-Texas made Spartan as STI 1911 firearm and was not thinking it at all
They really are not the same stuff, Spartan major parts are made by Armscor Philippines

I have not seen any polygun that would had been accurate or even durable.
We probably demand different things from pistols.

[theGinsue]

Looking at the OP's title, I was expecting this.

I was thinking more along this line..

WILSON! Come back Wilson!

(Sorry, I just had to!)

[Hoosier]

Oh sorry, my bad. I do not consider non-Texas made Spartan as STI 1911 firearm and was not thinking it at all
They really are not the same stuff, Spartan major parts are made by Armscor Philippines

So basically the cheapest STI is in the $1k+ range.

I have not seen any polygun that would had been accurate or even durable.

I don't see how there's really a substantial accuracy difference between most handguns... once the bullet is in the chamber, it really comes down to barrel quality, barrel length, and if you torque it as you pull the button, right? In terms of getting the bullet down range those are the only factors?

This is in the same vein as wondering if the XDm "match grade" barrels are really that much better. I think I'd have to put my glocks in a stand to see how accurate they really are, my belief is that any variances on where the bullet goes is caused by my aim and not he gun.

I guess this also means the $500 Brazilian made 1911 I got my "father in law" is a heap? He hasn't reported any FTF with it, or even any smokestack rounds, which is what I've seen 1911's do.

H.

[Ah Pook]

For me, firearms are tools. If I am making my living with a tool, I'm going to invest in better quality.

That being said, I am one of the unwashed masses that will probably never drop $2k+ on a firearm.

[Pistol Packing Preacher]

Truth be told... I would love to own a WC. The price is out of my universe!

I will say that My CZ 75B SA has not missed a beat and will stay by my side for a long time!

Not as 'good looking; as the WC...
But trustworthy!

.02 worth!

[Hoser]

So basically the cheapest STI is in the $1k+ range.

I don't see how there's really a substantial accuracy difference between most handguns... once the bullet is in the chamber, it really comes down to barrel quality, barrel length, and if you torque it as you pull the button, right? In terms of getting the bullet down range those are the only factors?

To a point, yes. However where hand fitting comes into play is how often the barrel and slide lock up exactly the same, every time. That means the barrel, slide, bushing, and everything that moves needs to be fitted. Machines cant do that. That last little bit of fitting is done by hand, and experience goes a long way.

Bullseye and PPC guns are built one at a time to ensure they run and put ammo inside a two inch group at 50 yards. Mass produced pistols cant do that.

I guess this also means the $500 Brazilian made 1911 I got my "father in law" is a heap? He hasn't reported any FTF with it, or even any smokestack rounds, which is what I've seen 1911's do.

It isnt a heap by any stretch. If it runs and he likes it, done deal. That is all that matters.

However the primary market of STI firearms is competitive shooters. They/we shoot a lot, get the guns hot and demand/expect 100% reliability. My primary Limited pistol (Custom STI Edge) in 40 has 60-70K rounds through it since the last rebuild, most of it on the spicey side not watered down ammo. My 3-gun pistol (Custom STI Tactical) has 30-40K of 9x19 through it and I have cleaned it exactly once. Both run like shit through a goose and can hold 1.5-2 inch groups at 25 yards. If they ran great but were not accurate, they would be useless. To me they are tools and dont need to be pretty. The finish on my STI 9 is mostly gone on the front half of the slide. My 40 is pretty, but thats only because hard chrome lasts longer than shake and bake finishes.

The primary market of Wilson is not competitive shooters even though that is where Bill Wilson got his start.

There is such a thing as pride in ownership. Thats where custom built or semi custom built pistols like Wilson and STI come in.

You think Wilson and STI are expensive? Look up Vickers, Morris, Heirloom, ect. 5-6 grand for a singlestack in 45, and a looooong wait.

[Ah Pook]

If I had the cash and was going for a top of the line 1911, it would probably be this one. Been following these builds for a few years and am always impressed.

Excuse me while I clean the drool off the keyboard.


http://www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads...0&page=0#90217

[theGinsue]

So long as it's only drool!

[Graves]

If I had the cash and was going for a top of the line 1911, it would probably be this one. Been following these builds for a few years and am always impressed.

Excuse me while I clean the drool off the keyboard.


http://www.10-8forums.com/ubbthreads...0&page=0#90217

You can send a SA Loaded MC to their costom shop and have it worked over to look just like that for much less than a Wilson. Probably the best way to do it since turn around is usually a week or so if you send one in (lead time on a custom carry from scratch is quite a bit longer but you can get everything you want). Honestly the WC's are pretty pricey when compaired to the Brown's or Baer's. That's why I bought mine gently used.

[Ah Pook]

For a mere $2,666.85 you could go this route.

Cylinder & Slide 1911 Tactical Class

If I only had time and money...