Quote Originally Posted by Not_A_Llama View Post
Dude, chill. It's .22 rifles, no one really gives a fuck. Are they cutting you a commission or something?

I've owned an M&P 15-22. The AR15 + Ciener represents a substantially better value for shooters using their 22 function to train. If you just wanted a .22 to shoot, Marlin 795s are $95 at Dick's.

As for the shooter with operational issues... experiment with ammo. My conversion (and actually most of my .22 rifles) hate Remington Thunderbolt. They loooove minimags and Rem golden bullet. YMMV.
I am chill I just don't like your blanket statement that the 'MP15-22 is a horrible training proposition' because I whole heartedly disagree. It's the same size, layout and functionality as a standard AR15 and replicates all functionality in every way. The only difference is felt recoil so I'm still waiting to hear why it's so horrible. I don't make a dime on them and could care less if people rush out and buy one based on what I say but, much like a Glock, 1911, AK47 or any other proven firearm out there, it irks me when people say they aren't any good w/o substantiating such claims. Tends to sway the conversation off course from actual conversation to stupid debates that nobody wins. In fact, I wouldn't have had a problem with anything else you said in the post save for that one statement that I quoted.