Drugs & Guns (Unintended consequences of medical marijuana and federal gun laws create a conundrum.)

[Irving]

That's exactly the answer I expected from the ATF. Good luck proving that you committed a felony if you don't have any evidence of pot in your system. Of course I realize that in reality, there just aren't very many people who actually have a MM card and don't actually use MJ, but the way that they state how if you have a card and check "no" than you WILL be committing a felony irks me.

[funkfool]

...the way that they state how if you have a card and check "no" than you WILL be committing a felony irks me.

Sounds JUST LIKE the FED.
New FED slogan:
"The Federal Government - where stupid is policy."

[Delfuego]

coloccw,

Thanks for all the good work. I know that talking on the phone with any gov't agency is a major pain in the ass. You must be a patient person with a good speakerphone.

I see this as another liberal tactic: "Want to smoke? give up your guns then!"

Personally I do not believe in the "Liberal Bogeyman". I think this is more of a contention issue with the State v Federal laws, the specific wording of the application and the fact that the Form 4473 predates the MM laws.

[Irving]

Yeah thanks for dealing with ATF when you didn't have to coloccw.

[Marlin]

Well, I can't claim to be a pure as the wind driven snow. I did try it once in my yute. Can't recall that it did anything for me, Heck, I don't even think I got the munchies from it.

That said, I say Legalize it, what do I care. not going to make me want to go out and smoke it.

I will say also, I worked with a guy 30 years ago that was, shall we say a recreational user. Saw him about a year ago, now I won't say thay he has anymore brain damage that the recreational alcohol users that I knew from the time. But, dang, He had more gaps in his memory from that time, it really was kind of scarey...

[Irving]

When I worked in the restaurant industry as my first job, EVERYBODY got high.

I figured they got high on the weekends, or maybe during the week. I once asked one of the waitresses how often she smokes, and she said "Ummm, probably between 10 and 15 times a day."

I was totally blown away. Some people that get high, are high CONSTANTLY while they are awake. Those are the kind of people that you can't tell when they are high, because they are always taking a hit here and there and you don't know them any other way. I was amazed that someone could smoke that much. I was like 15 and those were all the "adults" I had around me in my work environment. I was one of the few kids that didn't get into the race scene that was blowing up at the time. Glad I made it out of there mostly uninfluenced.

[TFOGGER]

Remember, the fed govt does not consider marijuana a legal drug, therefore having a prescription makes you an unlawful user and/or addicted to it. The fed govt guarantees your right to firearms, not the states. If they say medical marijuana card= no gun purchase: they can. No one is denying their right to self defense, just the purchase of a firearm through a licensed dealer.

Not entirely accurate: Colorado's constitution (as well as many other states') explicitly guarantees your right to keep and bear arms.

http://www.michie.com/colorado/lpext...artII-13%27%5D

[Delfuego]

Not entirely accurate: Colorado's constitution (as well as many other states') explicitly guarantees your right to keep and bear arms.

Yes, but does it guarantee the right to purchase or transfer arms? All Colorado FFL's require this paperwork to purchase or release a firearm. They are forced to adhere to the federal laws that govern their business.

It an Ipso Facto situation. It may not be legal by state law, but that doesn't seem to matter.

[scratchy]

.... The fed govt guarantees your right to firearms, not the states. If they say medical marijuana card= no gun purchase: they can. No one is denying their right to self defense, just the purchase of a firearm through a licensed dealer.

I hate to pick nits here but the Fed Gov does not guarantee anything at all. The constitution places limits on the government. We've all just lost sight of that little issue.

[275RLTW]

I hate to pick nits here but the Fed Gov does not guarantee anything at all. The constitution places limits on the government. We've all just lost sight of that little issue.

Sorry about the confusin there....the constitution guarantees the right, the fed govt guarantes taxes.