A gaping hole in school security or am I being an over reactive parent?

[Glock Shooter]

I thank you all for you thoughts. I received a call from a Detective with the Boulder Police Department following up and I hope to speak to her today. What's even more disturbing is that the Head of Boulder County School Security has not found the time to return my call requesting a conversation and follow up meeting. I will leave him another message today.

What is obvious to me is that the school understands that Kindergarten aged children should never be in the halls alone, that's why they have bathrooms inside the classroom. However, being that they were in Music class they seem to have "relaxed" this basic understanding. Then they compounded the problem by the Music teacher simply not identifying the "person" right then and there. They then erred again by emailing the principal who was off site and not calling the Boulder Police.

Again, thanks for your thoughts.

[rhineoshott]

Public schools are government schools, which means the government runs them. The schools cannot, should not, and will not protect your child. They do not deserve to train your children. You are the only person that can provide that for your son. My educating them yourself, your children will be much safer, smarter, and when they're grown you won't have to wonder what sort of creature they are a product of. They will reflect your character rather than that of their peers.

Here I am radical again

[iamhunter]

Public schools are government schools, which means the government runs them. The schools cannot, should not, and will not protect your child. They do not deserve to train your children. You are the only person that can provide that for your son. My educating them yourself, your children will be much safer, smarter, and when they're grown you won't have to wonder what sort of creature they are a product of. They will reflect your character rather than that of their peers.

Here I am radical again

+1

[Irving]

I agree with that in principle, but not only do I not know all the things I want my kid to learn, I'm not exactly a natural teacher. Nor do I have the time or money to home school.

[iamhunter]

I agree with that in principle, but not only do I not know all the things I want my kid to learn, I'm not exactly a natural teacher.

Neither do most teachers, that's why they use a set curriculum

Nor do I have the time or money to home school.

I do understand this, but where there's a will, there's a way.

My dad managed to send me to private school K-6 while working as a Beer salesmen, supporting a family of 4 on a $20,000 a year salary.

Sure we wore hand me down clothes, ate cheap food, and lived in a tiny house.

But my education and mental capabilities have proven to be the most valuable thing my parents ever provided me with.

[BigBear]

I agree with that in principle, but not only do I not know all the things I want my kid to learn, I'm not exactly a natural teacher. Nor do I have the time or money to home school.

Irving! I love you man (not that way)... Wonderful segeway into my point I was making on another thread: It is the parents responsibility to raise their kid, not the schools. You mentioned that you're not a natural teacher nor do you know all the things you want your kid to learn. That is fine! I would say most people are not natural teachers and don't know everything they'd like too. However, how often have you taught someone something? "Hey Stu, how do I handle such and such?" and you've given advice that may or may not have worked. Regardless of the outcome, you have still taught that person something. Teaching others how to teach themselves is the ultimate goal!! Even if it's learning how to find out teh answers... even "googling"! lol.

When I post a question on here there are invariably two answers: 99% is the direct answer to the question. The 1% is the hardest, but best rewarding answer. For example: (I made the numbers up smartbutts, don't correct them! lol)

Q: What is the velocity of a .55 grain .308 bullet with 175 grains of powder exiting a 20 inch barrel and where will it land at 200 yards in ideal weather?

A #1: 26K fps, 1.5 inch drop.

A #2: If you look at "this" website/chart/etc you can see the makings/formulas for what you asked plus the variances in powders, wind droppage at distances, blah, blah, blah.

Now answer number one was fine, there is nothing wrong with it. But it is teaching by route, teaching to the test, whatever you want to call it. No one learns anything but that particular piece of information that will never help them unless they ALWAYS shoot that particular combination in that particular weather condition.

Answer number two not only answers the question (with a little reading/guidance), but also leads the student to think on their own and start to come up with other questions and how to answer them.

And for the record, unless you are a teacher, home school is worthless in my opinion.

Game on!

[refryguy]

I agree with BigBear, if you aren't actually educated to be a teacher then don't try and home school. Thats like asking a Plumber to fix your jet engine, maybe an extreme example but you get the point. All the kids I know that were home schooled did not do well socially and struggled in College. My cousins turned all gothy emo kids, but I think its cause they were raised home schooled in a very very strict Christian household. It was the only way the could rebell. However, my wife's cousins were home schooled by their mother, who has a masters in education, and they have all done very well in college but they said they regret not be able to play sports in High School.

[275RLTW]

Q: What is the velocity of a .55 grain .308 bullet

Where can I get some of those?

[iamhunter]

I agree with BigBear, if you aren't actually educated to be a teacher then don't try and home school.

I disagree. I was homeschooled for part of my education by my mother, who has no educational degree.

I was always socially well adjusted, and did EXTREMELY well academically.

(1560 SAT score, accepted into numerous top-level univerisites, attending my state university with a full-ride scholarship)

However, I do agree if you homeschool your kids you MUST go out of your way to get them socially involved with large groups of children. Theres no other way for a kid to learn the lessons he learns when dealing with his peers.

I spent 5 years in an a private elementary school, was homeschooled for three years, spent 2 years in in a public magnet high school, and went to college at 17.

My brother followed almost the same path, except instead of the magnet school, he went to the public school up the road.

Didn't work out quite as well for him.

The standards, challenges, and quality of education in your run-of-the-mill public school is PAINFULLY inadequate.

[rhineoshott]

I agree with that in principle, but not only do I not know all the things I want my kid to learn, I'm not exactly a natural teacher.

Textbooks.

Besides classroom style learning has prooven(ha ha, yeah I know, taboo word) to be a less effective learning system than textbooks and/or personal teacher/tutor.

Think of it this way, anyone can teach someone to read. It's not hard at all, just takes some time. Once a child can read, he can pretty much learn anything. He's not limited by the teacher, he's limited by his textbooks. Homeschooling is not the parent trying to tell their kid everything academic they know. The parent really just directs the learning. AKA making sure they're doing it.