Just cant win

[palepainter]

The law is on the extreme side of a solution, but to do nothing is way worse IMO. I am for seeing how it goes and then react from there. Valid citizens have nothing to worry about. The Patriot Act was way more of a violation of our rights. To sit back and say, we may offend someone in this case is going to ensure more problems than not doing anything.

In Nazi Germany, If you had identification showing you were Jewish, you were shot or interned. Here if you cant prove your a Citizen or have papers, your given a bus ride back home. Big difference there.

[ThunderSquirrel]

What's the first thing any Officer asks when you get pulled over? 'License and Registration please.' Since this has been going on for years... why has no one compared this to Nazi Germany? All of the sudden its a big issue that you have to show ID to an Officer?
If you're here illegally, its a crime. All the law does is put more enforcement to a law that already exists.

[HBARleatherneck]

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In Nazi Germany, If you had identification showing you were Jewish, you were shot or interned. Here if you cant prove your a Citizen or have papers, your given a bus ride back home. Big difference there.[/quote]

here is the biggest thing. we dont want to hurt these people. (And i dont care what country they are from. wether, they overstayed thier visa, came on vacation and never left, slipped accross our borders, shipped themselves here in a conex box, they need to go, if they are not here legally.) we just want them to go back to thier country of origin. We dont want to kill them, we sure dont want to pay to lock them up.
I think that there is nothing wrong with this. humanely sending them home and keeping them from coming back is what we need to do.

[Marlin]

The Patriot Act was way more of a violation of our rights.

I would be willing to bet, (That is, if I cared enough to do the research.) I could find a dozen laws on the books, Prior to, that more or less say the same thing as the PA.

[iamhunter]

I would be willing to bet, (That is, if I cared enough to do the research.) I could find a dozen laws on the books, Prior to, that more or less say the same thing as the PA.

*Whew* that's a relief.


But aside from that, I may be mistaken.

Does this new law ONLY allow officers to pursue this policy during a traffic stop?

or during a stop for ANY reason?

[Marlin]

*Whew* that's a relief.


But aside from that, I may be mistaken.

Does this new law ONLY allow officers to pursue this policy during a traffic stop?

or during a stop for ANY reason?

As stated in the other thread, The abusive ones will abuse, Those who don't,won't..

Not sure what else I can say..

[palepainter]

From what I understand, there has to be a prior legal action required for the check.

[Hoosier]

The abusive ones will abuse, Those who don't,won't.

Hopefully the ubiquitous video cameras on everyones cellphone will at least have abusive officers thinking twice about what they can get away with in public.

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[Marlin]

Hopefully the ubiquitous video cameras on everyones cellphone will at least have abusive officers thinking twice about what they can get away with in public.

H

There is always hope..

[Irving]

So the guy and kids that were thrown in jail have since been let out. So to answer Cerbu's question, when the guy showed his driver's license, the officer's response was apparently, "We're taking you and the kids to jail."

Family's response? "We're just glad they're all out. We don't want to sue any one or make any trouble. We don't want to make ourselves any more of a target than we already are." <- Not a real quote, just a summary.

Hope that guy doesn't have any troubles getting a job in the future because he has an arrest on his record now.