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    This has been a long time coming, I think the reason all the libs are mad is because the illegals are the only ones voting for them. My view on it is like this if you want to come to America you are more than welcome but you get to stand in line, Do paper work, and get a job like everybody else, Despite age race or religion.

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    This has been a long time coming, I think the reason all the libs are mad is because the illegals are the only ones voting for them. My view on it is like this if you want to come to America you are more than welcome but you get to stand in line, Do paper work, and get a job like everybody else, learn and speak English, Despite age race or religion.
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    I am wicked torn up about this one.

    -Just for the sake of this is the internet and you can't see me. I come from southern AZ, born and raised. I worked an ambulance that ran in the Nogales and Tucson section under the USBP. I majored in Latin American Studies pertaining to US/Mexico border relations, from the U of Arizona. And finally I worked search and rescue along the border. end resume for this topic-

    I’m generally really skeptical about the .gov and their actions and worry about the possibility of "lets see your papers" check points. There are already DUI checkpoints in Arizona, and if this is a crime, why no “papers” check points? I don’t like people monitoring where I’ve gone if that info is saved and without some scanning system I don't see how it could be very effective, a fake idea is easy if it has no bar coding system.

    Second, as a person who comes from AZ I can say with certainty there are sections of the towns that may as well be in Mexico, not because they are full of illegal immigrants but because the entire population is Spanish speaking Hispanics whose families have lived in the cities longer than the cities have fallen within US territory, Now US citizens, what would not make them “suspicious.”

    My opinion, there is no good way about this without destroying a lot of what we hold dear. Huge sections of AZ use migrant workers for agriculture, in jobs we won’t do, trust me, they have tried, just not a large enough population way out in the sticks of AZ come harvest time, and most US citizens aren’t wild about living 20 per doublewide for a few months a year.

    Secondly, there are reservations in the area that are sovereign and have territory in the US and Mexico, they won’t build a fence across the reservation so tribal members can cross freely. And, no surprise, we ran into plenty of UDAs crossing there, through empty wasteland desert run by a government that, to put it mildly, isn’t wild about having federal officers patrolling it.


    Wish I could come up with a better solution though, and frankly, not sure about the need for a solution. In terms of taxing our system, I ran into plenty of dirt bag civilians (read-lazy or drug addicted) milking the lowest income aid and free health care our system has, at least illegals generally got jobs and helped out small business with CHEAP labor, not just used ambulances as taxis and hospitals as hotels on our dime. interesting topic though, but frankly to me it looks like a smoke and mirrors political trick to rev up republicans in the cities, with no teeth or way of fixing anything

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