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    PHOENIX – Gov. Jan Brewer ignored criticism from President Barack Obama on Friday and signed into law Thank you

    "We in Arizona (And Colorado and Denver the santuary city)have been more than patient waiting for Washington or the gov and the mayorto act," Brewer said

    Brewer signed the bill in a state auditorium about a mile from the Capitol complex where some 2,000 only 2000 where were the others my guess hidingdemonstrators booed when county Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox announced that "the governor did not listen to our prayers."

    "We can't walk to school any more. We can't be in the streets anymore without the pigs ah excuse me? our "pigs" why don't you take a little step across the border and let us know what human rights looks like there senor thinking we're illegal immigrants."

    William Sanchez, president of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders Legal Defense Fund, said his group is preparing a federal lawsuit against Arizona to stop the law from being applied. The group represents 30,000 Evangelical churches nationwide how many? sorry that's a stretch Senorita Sanchez
    "Millions of Latinos around the country are shocked," Sanchez said.And millions of illegals are scared zhitless

    Arizona has an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants, that failed to show up at the protest.




    fantastic news! I love how it started off with "ignored criticism from obama"...haha sucker jam that down your throat![/quote]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brassie View Post
    fantastic news! I love how it started off with "ignored criticism from obama"...haha sucker jam that down your throat!
    Yeah, that'll teach him! Nothing worse than having criticism ignored

    I think this is really just a sop to the conservatives in Arizona. From what I've read the governor is facing a strong challenge in her re-election campaign, and so like John McCain she's desperate to appear tough on issues that exorcise the voters.

    If it's implemented like a couple of posters in the other thread suggested it would be, then it's going to result in a few illegals being deported, but I bet it will be a drop in the ocean compared to how many cross the border in the same time.

    If it's implemented in the way it could be, then I'm sure before too long Joe Arpaio is going to take it way too far and have a lawsuit on his hands for harassing US citizens or brown colored tourists.

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    This has been a long time coming, I think the reason all the libs are mad is because the illegals are the only ones voting for them. My view on it is like this if you want to come to America you are more than welcome but you get to stand in line, Do paper work, and get a job like everybody else, Despite age race or religion.

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    Here, I fixed it for you:

    Quote Originally Posted by Backinblackrifles View Post
    This has been a long time coming, I think the reason all the libs are mad is because the illegals are the only ones voting for them. My view on it is like this if you want to come to America you are more than welcome but you get to stand in line, Do paper work, and get a job like everybody else, learn and speak English, Despite age race or religion.
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    I am wicked torn up about this one.

    -Just for the sake of this is the internet and you can't see me. I come from southern AZ, born and raised. I worked an ambulance that ran in the Nogales and Tucson section under the USBP. I majored in Latin American Studies pertaining to US/Mexico border relations, from the U of Arizona. And finally I worked search and rescue along the border. end resume for this topic-

    I’m generally really skeptical about the .gov and their actions and worry about the possibility of "lets see your papers" check points. There are already DUI checkpoints in Arizona, and if this is a crime, why no “papers” check points? I don’t like people monitoring where I’ve gone if that info is saved and without some scanning system I don't see how it could be very effective, a fake idea is easy if it has no bar coding system.

    Second, as a person who comes from AZ I can say with certainty there are sections of the towns that may as well be in Mexico, not because they are full of illegal immigrants but because the entire population is Spanish speaking Hispanics whose families have lived in the cities longer than the cities have fallen within US territory, Now US citizens, what would not make them “suspicious.”

    My opinion, there is no good way about this without destroying a lot of what we hold dear. Huge sections of AZ use migrant workers for agriculture, in jobs we won’t do, trust me, they have tried, just not a large enough population way out in the sticks of AZ come harvest time, and most US citizens aren’t wild about living 20 per doublewide for a few months a year.

    Secondly, there are reservations in the area that are sovereign and have territory in the US and Mexico, they won’t build a fence across the reservation so tribal members can cross freely. And, no surprise, we ran into plenty of UDAs crossing there, through empty wasteland desert run by a government that, to put it mildly, isn’t wild about having federal officers patrolling it.


    Wish I could come up with a better solution though, and frankly, not sure about the need for a solution. In terms of taxing our system, I ran into plenty of dirt bag civilians (read-lazy or drug addicted) milking the lowest income aid and free health care our system has, at least illegals generally got jobs and helped out small business with CHEAP labor, not just used ambulances as taxis and hospitals as hotels on our dime. interesting topic though, but frankly to me it looks like a smoke and mirrors political trick to rev up republicans in the cities, with no teeth or way of fixing anything

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    If you get caught and your not a citizen, you should be deported. It doesn't have to be complicated. There is no question we have the right to decide who comes into our country.

    The wages for picking needs to go up so that citizen are interested in that work. Right now you have near slave labor doing it. That gives a false value to the job. That may mean the price of food will go up; but that's what happens when you use salve labor. Sounds like a similar argument the south was making to keep their slaves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldrwl View Post
    If you get caught and your not a citizen, you should be deported. It doesn't have to be complicated. There is no question we have the right to decide who comes into our country.
    The thing is, what's the betting that anyone who is deported under this law comes right back over the first chance they get?

    And say, for the sake of argument, that 50,000 people a year cross the border into Arizona. That means that the police will have to discover 50,000 illegal immigrants amongst the people they detain for other reasons (assuming they don't go out hunting specifically for illegals) just to maintain the status quo.

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