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    If I was giving the choice I'd go firing squad! Injection seems boring. Hope I never have to make that choice though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevDen2005 View Post
    Why is it such a big deal if he chooses it? It's not like it was his only option!!!

    The article says "Old West" Justice. I think it would be better if they hung him than shot him.
    I'd rather be hung than shot and would rather receive lethal injection than be hung. Just sayin.
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    I just looked and its gone, but there was a page on the Utah DOC page that described how they do this. They allude to the fact that the rifles are bolted down on benches having been sighted in before hand. The guns can't miss that way. The shooter just walks up behind the gun and pulls the trigger. Four bullets one blank. With lethal injection they also have multiple syringe setups so nobody knows who really killed the guy.

    They also discussed why the firing squad was still around. It had religious implications. Apparently it was a hold over from years gone by when Mormons ran things in Utah. (No insult intended.) A firing squad was chosen because the belief is that there can be no remission of sins without the shedding of blood. Hanging and lethal injection do not shed blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger View Post
    I just looked and its gone, but there was a page on the Utah DOC page that described how they do this. They allude to the fact that the rifles are bolted down on benches having been sighted in before hand. The guns can't miss that way. The shooter just walks up behind the gun and pulls the trigger. Four bullets one blank. With lethal injection they also have multiple syringe setups so nobody knows who really killed the guy.
    Hm, interesting. Multiple syringes exist regardless because it requires multiple chemicals (one is a sedative so no pain is felt, and one or two others stop the heart and other systemic functions - I can't remember the specific details). Maybe they just have multiple people flip switches to turn the machine on so nobody knows who really did it?

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    Lethal injection - They sterilize the needle... why? lol. It's not painful at all. They put you to sleep, then inject a chemical mix that stops your hearts. 5-10 minutes later they call the death. There have been a few cases where people had to be injected twice and the doctor on scene called death but the prisoner woke up shortly after (very, very sick, but still alive). In my opinion, lethal injection is too humane. A murder, rapists, ecetra should experience some pain in death... like they did to their victims.

    Firing squad - They do not get paid insane amount of money. Usually they simple take a few guardsmen who went through a few extra classes. Their is no standard on the format... some people use all rounds, some people use x rounds mixed with blanks. There has been one case that I know of where death was by bleeding out instead of a straight kill shot. Still too humane in my opinion if the guards are dcent shots.

    Hanging - too quick and clean unless the nooseman miscalculates the weight... too humane.

    Electric chair - Gets a little messy... but efficient and painful if the ampage is done correctly. There has also been a few cases of survivors here as well.

    Drawn and quartered - my personal favorite... done over several days, perp kept alive as long as possible with carterization.

    Life sentence prisoners cost over $90K+ a year per inmate. This includes room and board and in most places - a gym, cable tv, etc. Not all lifers are in a maximum security, etc.

    A bullet costs about 2 cents.... I'm just saying.

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    I linked this article to a friend, and she replied with, "Well, I've told you to read 'The Executioner's Song' a bunch of times already.

    Soooo, here is the link, looks interesting.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Executioner%27s_Song

    This is what she said it is about.

    I told you to read it a couple times. Its interesting, because part of its about how the guy kills some people in Utah. The other part is about how he is put on death row and wants to die, but those stupid groups kept going to court to keep him alive cause they are against the death penalty. He finally got the firing squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    'The Executioner's Song'
    Stuart, thanks! That sounds like a great title for a dirge/ballad I'm writing!

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    The title of the book may be a play on "The Lord High Executioner's Song" from Gilbert and Sullivan's The Mikado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBear View Post
    Lethal injection - They sterilize the needle... why? lol. It's not painful at all. They put you to sleep, then inject a chemical mix that stops your hearts. 5-10 minutes later they call the death. There have been a few cases where people had to be injected twice and the doctor on scene called death but the prisoner woke up shortly after (very, very sick, but still alive). In my opinion, lethal injection is too humane. A murder, rapists, ecetra should experience some pain in death... like they did to their victims.

    Firing squad - They do not get paid insane amount of money. Usually they simple take a few guardsmen who went through a few extra classes. Their is no standard on the format... some people use all rounds, some people use x rounds mixed with blanks. There has been one case that I know of where death was by bleeding out instead of a straight kill shot. Still too humane in my opinion if the guards are dcent shots.

    Hanging - too quick and clean unless the nooseman miscalculates the weight... too humane.

    Electric chair - Gets a little messy... but efficient and painful if the ampage is done correctly. There has also been a few cases of survivors here as well.

    Drawn and quartered - my personal favorite... done over several days, perp kept alive as long as possible with carterization.

    Life sentence prisoners cost over $90K+ a year per inmate. This includes room and board and in most places - a gym, cable tv, etc. Not all lifers are in a maximum security, etc.

    A bullet costs about 2 cents.... I'm just saying.
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    That sounds good to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBear View Post

    A bullet costs about 2 cents.... I'm just saying.
    Everyone always says this, but find me a bullet that costs .2 cents. .22lr is the only one I can think of.

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